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Re: To all "chevy mechanics" concerning top end oilers

To: Dave Terrick <dterrick@pangea.ca>
Subject: Re: To all "chevy mechanics" concerning top end oilers
From: Aaron Johnson <sugar@holly.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:27:59 -0600 (MDT)
Cc: triumphs@Autox.Team.Net
If you want...we can run 'em.  I haven't seen a TR3 yet that can keep
up...even the Vintage Racers.

aaron

On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Dave Terrick wrote:

> Enough shit already guys.
> 
> Dave terrick here with nomex on - I'm racing this weekend, I dont care
> about no stinkin' flames.
> 
> IM (not so)HO,  rocker feed kits are a preventative measure, not a panacea.
>  If your car puffs now without the kit,it's already too late and yes, the
> kit will increase puffing.  Why you ask?
> 
> You've already worn your valve guides to at least twice their spec and the
> spec was generous to start.  Your oil pressure will be a bit low since the
> shaft is already grooved allowing much greater clearance.  Now, you have a
> limited oil flow going into a much larger hole than designed and how much
> of that oil do you think will get to the <front> of the rocker train?  Ya,
> it's probably dry right now.
> 
> Take the head off,  replace the guides with silicone bronze spec
> ("competition" option),  change the worn valves (likely due anyway), valve
> springs and keepers, rocker shaft and rockers.  It's all shot or on its way
> out if your car has more than about 60 k miles unless you are really lucky.
>  Now that you've spent several hundred dollars on the top end where your
> power is made in a TR anyway,  you may want to protect your investment.
> Now spend $50 on a kit and no, there will be no smoke if all was done right.  
> 
> FYI,  my wrecker motor in my vintage racer, feed kit in,  smokes less than
> most '6's on the road and I have done absolutely nothing except put the
> feed kit on.  Yes, the rockers are in good shape.  no I don't know the
> mileage, maybe 38k like the speedo said.  165 comp across the board and it
> will kick any TR6 in a straight line and around the corners.
> 
> Finally, a word of advice to those who "trust" the local engine builder.....
> 
> 
> With all due respect,  most of the builders today were taught on sm block
> chevys, of which there are - maybe - a few million in circulation.  You can
> buy rebuilt heads for less than rocker gear on a TR.  You can spend $50 on
> reading materials and know almost as much as the guy in the back (earning
> $10/hr or so who is actually doing your work, not the master
> machinist/mechanic shop owner) about a chevy,  just try that with a TR.
> Finally,  who here has ever seen a full size chevy smoking under
> acceleration or idle?  Are these the people you want to listen to?
> 
> Please ensure if your builder tells you something isn't necessary, ask
> questions!  I agree it <shouldn't> be  necessary but the facts are
> different.  We know this.  Just like a rings and bearings engine job IS NOT
> a "re-manufacture", neither is a rocker feed kit a head job.  On the other
> hand,  given the choice of surely grinding the valve gear away or putting
> up with a bit more smoke,  you know which one I've chosen.  
> 
> Oh ya,  another slant on the issue...... are your plugs oil fouled?  If
> they are before you use the kit, then you have a problem anyway.   If the
> kit causes <one or two> cylinders to foul,  you have a problem.  If the kit
> causes global fouling then you should start saving a couple grand, plus $50
> for a kit once the mill is remanufactured.
> 
> 
> respectfully,
> 
> Dave Terrick
> 


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