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Re: TR6 "Magic Clutch?" -Reply

To: tigerpb@ids.net, adixon@loudoun.com
Subject: Re: TR6 "Magic Clutch?" -Reply
From: Kenneth Brown <kbrown@trmx3.dot.ca.gov>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:11:52 -0800
Cc: triumphs@Autox.Team.Net
Hi Pete,

I used the info supplied by Hugh to purchase the parts myself. Unfortunately I
can't give you an opinion since my restoration won't be completed for another 4
months (wishful thinking).

As Hugh mentioned, shop around for the parts because there is a large price
variation between vendors. I had a hard time finding the Sach's pressure plate
and ended up mail ordering as per Hugh's recommendation from "The Parts Guy" 
(phone 800-874-1850 - P/N SC436, $49.95 + shipping, make sure you tell them you
got the quote from a web inquiry or they will try to charge you more). I
purchased the Toyota throw out bearing ($39.99) from my local parts store (once
again the price varied greatly). Everything fit as if it was original, so I 'll
have to wait until that "magic" day when I get the TR on the road to see if it
was a success.

Ken
TR250 

PS: Once again I would like to emphasis that I have not taken my car on the
road as of yet. I only comment that everything fit up as if original. One thing
I can say, is Hugh really did his homework on this one. Anyone planning this
conversion should thank him. His original post follows:

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:06:49 -0700
From: Hugh Barber <piglet@earthlink.net>
Subject: "Magic Clutch" Recipe and other fixes

A few weeks ago, I put a message on the list asking if anyone knew the
specifics about the "Magic Clutch" that TRF sells (since they are so
circumspect about it and charge a small fortune for it, along with
requiring you to completely replace all the parts internal to the
bellhousing if you want it guaranteed). What follows is the compiled data from
my study - I do not have any interests in any of the companies listed below.

1. Clutch Release Bearing (or Throwout Bearing):  The bearing to use is the
throwout bearing for a 1975-1986 Toyota Landcruiser.  This bearing has a
Beck-Arnley/Worldparts part number of 062-0898.  Other part numbers it is
listed under are "RCT52S", "RB-0203", and "046", but you can just ask for a
1975-86 Landcruiser Throwout bearing and you will get the right part.  It is a
larger OD than the stock TR-6 T/O bearing, but the ID is the same, so it
presses onto the stock TR-6 carrier/sleeve. Shop around for the best price - I
was quoted from a low of $40 to a high of $80 for the exact same bearing.

2. Clutch Pressure Plate:  The Pressure Plate to use is the SACHS pressure
plate for a 1979-1991 Saab 900 w/non-turbo 2 liter engine.  This has a Sachs
part number of SC436, and a Saab/Metrix Parts part number of 87-28-123.  When
you buy this make sure you are getting a Sachs part - Borg&Beck and Sachs were
used interchangably on the 900 series and the Saab part number does not
distinguish between the two brands.  If you get a Borg&Beck you are getting the
same part that you (most likely) just took off your TR-6.  The best price I
found was from "The Parts Guy" (phone 800-874-1850 - P/N SC436, $49.95 +
shipping).

3. Clutch Friction Disk:  There is no Sachs friction disk for a TR - the
Saab has a different input shaft.  Use any brand you want - as long as its not
Q-H ( Q-H will probably work - they are just really poor on quality
control).

Additional hints I gathered:

1.  Hone or machine an addition .010-.020 of clearance off the inner bore
of the throwout bearing sleeve.  Apparently at higher temperatures, it has a
tendency to stick.  Also install it with some high-temp grease.

2.  Drill a 5/16" hole at a 90 degree angle to the retaining pin (offset
from the pin - you don't want to drill through it) through the fork and
rod, and istall a grade 8 bolt and nut as additional insurance from the pin
breaking.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: Pete & Aprille Chadwell <dynamic@transport.com>

So, naturally I'm considering the "Magic Clutch," I may even purchase the
appropriate parts myself using that great information that Hugh Barber supplied
us all a while back.  One thing's for sure.  I do not want to have to do this
every 26000 miles.




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