Brian: Not true! The TR4A bar, originally made by AMCO, was attached to the
frame and looped up above the bumper and came to a slight point in the front.
In addition to attaching at the frame it mattached through the inner bumper
mounting hole on each side. This left the overriders some 6 inches wide of
each attaching point. By the way, you can see a pic of this bar on the
brocchure that Ray Hatfield has on his web site.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/5405
I assume (perhaps wrongly), that this is the same bar as for the TR250 because
they have the same bumpers with the smaller overriders spread wider apart.
Conversley, the only badge bar that I ever saw for a TR4 was shown to me
recently by a fellow lister, Jerry VanVlak. It is a small bar which goes up
from the outer bumper bolt and around the overrider (bigger and closer together
than TR4A) with a slight curve to the other side where it attaches at the other
front outer bumper iron mounting bolt. The one he has even has little rubber
buffers where the bar rests against the over-riders. This bar does not mount
to the frame.
In confirmation of my position, I note that although the shape of the TR4
bumper is the same as the TR4A and TR250 the holes are in different places and
they are not interchangable! Therefore, I suspect a badge bar for a TR4 will
not fit a TR4A or 250 without modification or drilling another few holes in
your bumper.
Sorry for the length of this reply.
Steve Mc
>>> "Brian Sanborn" <sanborn@net1plus.com> 02/29/00 07:26pm >>>
Steven,
Since I have a TR4, it not direct concern for me... but it occurs
to me that regardless of where your overriders are located the
bumper mounting points that the bar attaches to are the same...
and the badge bar should be no wider than this one anyway.
FWIW... I believe that this bar is an option for TR4A and TR250
owners to consider..
Brian Sanborn
62 TR4 CT16260L - Groton, MA
My TR4 Restoration Web Site
http://www.net1plus.com/users/sanborn/Home.html
E-Mail: sanborn@net1plus.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven McCutcheon [mailto:Steven.McCutcheon@MAH.GOV.ON.CA]
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 9:13 PM
To: sanborn@net1plus.com
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Badge Bar for TR4, TR4A, TR250 Opportunity
Gents: I trust you all know that the badge bars are different
for TR4's than for 4A's and 250's. The spacing of the bumper
over-riders is different and the entire bar changed after the
TR4. I hope you know which one you are buying/making.
Steve Mc
>>> "Brian Sanborn" <sanborn@net1plus.com> 02/26/00 12:05pm >>>
TR4, 4A & 250 Listers,
I wanted to share something with you that many of you will want.
I have always seen badge bars on MGs, Jags and Healys, Stags,
TR2s and TR3s but only once one a TR250. I like the look as
long as it unobtrusive. It make the car look "very British" for
some reason.
I caught an offer from list member Bill Eley. Vern Burnett from
his Texas based TR club had made up a small batch of handcrafted
chrome badge bars for club members with the middle TRs (not sure
if it will fit early TR6s). There were a couple left over... I
jumped at the chance and managed to get one of the remaining
bars.
I received the bar from Vern and was very pleased with the
quality and especially the elegant design that allows the bar to
kind of "float" just above the bumper without being gaudy. I paid
around a $100 with shipping. Very fair considering the quality
and the prices charged by Moss for other bars. I'm sure it will
help my car stand out at this summer's gatherings.
Vern would like to make a second run of badge bars... but needs
to get a larger order together to justify the chroming costs. You
can check out the pictures that Bill Eley sent of the bar
installed on his car.
http://www.net1plus.com/users/sanborn/BadgeBar.html
If you are interested... contact Vern directly at
mailto:VB157234@MSXSOPC.SHELL.COM. He is not on the List.
Naturally, I have no financial interest... bla, bla, bla
Brian Sanborn
62 TR4 CT16260L - Groton, MA
My TR4 Restoration Web Site
http://www.net1plus.com/users/sanborn/Home.html
E-Mail: sanborn@net1plus.com
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