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Re: tire history (no LBC) (was TR3 tires)

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Subject: Re: tire history (no LBC) (was TR3 tires)
From: "Keith A. Edwards" <kedwards@norfolk.infi.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:18:05 -0700
Cc: "James A. Ruffner" <erl@virginia.edu>, Randall Young <randallyoung@earthlink.net>
References: <039b01c01880$c19dd200$4d8ceed0@PhilEthier> <39BBC491.6D5C7D12@earthlink.net> <39BBEB98.7043DDE@virginia.edu>
I had the belt separate from a Michelin X (or ZX, perhaps) in 1975 or
so.  I was towing a pop-up camping trailer behind my TR4A at the time,
but that should not have been the cause.  I understood from the original
owner
that the first set of Michelin Xs lasted 60K miles.

I had thought a helicopter was passing overhead.  Dented up the RR
fender
badly, from flapping.  I found the belt and tread wrapped around the
brake drum.

My local Michelin dealer was no help.

Regarding bias ply tires these days, yes, they are hard to get.  I like
to get bias ply tires for my car trailer (which has MGB wire wheels on
it).  I believe the tires I got were meant for an (old) compact truck.

A photo of my car trailer (with the remnant of a Healey on it) can be
seen at http://www.norfolk.infi.net/~kedwards/photos/100-6Healey.jpg

Keith Edwards
Suffolk, VA
4.5 TRs

"James A. Ruffner" wrote:
> 
> I recollect that the Michlin radials did not fail, but because, as you so
> correctly mention, everyone was used to biased, they had no notion of what to
> expect from the radials of Michlin.  Also, I many times had people yell over 
>to me
> that my tire(s) were low, or flat, because radials naturally looked low, by 
>bias
> tire standards.  The radials were laughingly refered to as "zip tires."  They 
>had
> excellent traction, so that if you were used to biased, which begin to slip 
>much
> sooner, that when the radials finally DID let go, the whole car would go 
>"zip!"
> People, especially the kids, would over-drive the tires' and the car's
> capabilities.
> 
> It is noteworthy that finding bias-plys is almost impossible today.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Randall Young wrote:
> 
> > Phil Ethier wrote:
> > >
> > > Firestone took a shot at killing radials in this country when the first 
>ones
> > > they made wrecked some police cars.  Does not look like they have come 
>very
> > > far in the 40 years since.
> >
> > The Firestone 500 debacle was actually less than 30 years ago (the tire
> > was introduced in 1972).
> >
> > 35 years ago, it was actually Michelin radials that failed suddenly and
> > without warning.  But since everyone in the US was used to bias-ply
> > tires (which do much the same thing), it wasn't nearly as big a deal.
> > Back then a 'blowout' was a common occurence, and drivers were expected
> > to be able to deal with it.
> >
> > BTW, the Firestone 500 debacle killed the company that Harvey Firestone
> > started in 1900.  The current mess belongs to Bridgestone, a Japanese
> > company.
> >
> > Randall

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