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Re: quick ratio rack installation problems in a TR6

To: GuyotLeonF@aol.com
Subject: Re: quick ratio rack installation problems in a TR6
From: Rob Pennington <robp@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 13:39:11 -0600
Cc: robp@ncsa.uiuc.edu, triumphs@autox.team.net, tedtsimx@q1.net
At 01:23 PM 2/10/2002, GuyotLeonF@aol.com wrote:
>Rob,
>
>Re your email below:
>
>I don't know if this is the answer you are looking for, but I have seen 
>some Triumphs, (Spitfire, Vitesse, GT6 & TR6), with a couple of front 
>suspension shims, (the ones that go between the chassis and the front 
>lower wishbones on the smaller Triumphs, fitted between the engine 
>mounting rubbers and the engine mounting bracket, apparently to raise the 
>engine as you have indicated.

This is a good suggestion.

>On Spitfires and GT6's this can cause clearance problems at the top front 
>of the engines, but almost certainly not on a TR6 with its' mostly flat bonnet
>
>Also, there are some 'suspect' engine mounting rubbers around, where the 
>rubber is softer than the original 'metalastik' mountings.
>The rubber should be solid, without any holes running through the center.

Ahh!  Thank you.  That type of mounts is what I received from TRF a year or 
so ago.

Rob

>Hope that helps you some.
>
>If it still doesn't work, perhaps try urethane rack bushes from Ted 
>schumachwer instead of the solid alloy ones, or have the alloy ones cut 
>down to make them the same height as the original squishy rubber items?
>
>Regards
>
>Leon
>*****************************************************************************************
>Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 10:50:20 -0600
>From: Rob Pennington <robp@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
>Subject: quick ratio rack installation problems in a TR6
>
>Hi,
>
>I've got a Moss Europe quick ratio steering rack that I went to install in
>my TR6 two nights ago.  Here's the story to date and, if anyone has
>suggestions, I'd appreciate them.
>
>The quick ratio rack comes with it's own solid mounts, which hold the rack
>much higher than the standard rack mounts.  When I went to put it in, I
>found that the fan extension was too low and the rack wouldn't go up onto
>the mounts..  Okay I thought, I know what that is and replaced the motor
>mounts with new ones that I got from TRF sometime back and was waiting for
>an excuse/reason to put them in.  This brought the engine up some but not
>enough for the rack to be installed - the fan extension was still too low.
>
>A quick email to Moss got an equally quick and fairly detailed response on
>installing the rack and that they had heard of this but replacing the
>tired, sagging original mounts with mounts from Moss took care of it for
>another customer recently.
>
>So I went back out this morning to look things over and it appears that the
>engine mounts can be installed with one way holding the engine just a
>little higher than the other.  So I took them out, turned them over and now
>the engine is just a little higher but not quite high enough yet to install
>the rack.  And if I did manage to squeeze it in, as soon as the engine
>started sagging in the mounts a little bit or bucked, it would bang the
>rack.  The image of the fan extension whacking the rack or slowly grinding
>its way its way into the rack doesn't appeal to me very much.  <grin>
>
>Has anyone else installed one of these racks?  If so, do you have any advice?
>Do the big three all supply the same mounts?
>Any other suggestions?  I'm considering taking the fan extension off,
>having a spare one cut down so it doesn't extend into the area where the
>rack is at and putting in an electric fan. Does the extension do anything
>besides hold the fan out next to the radiator (balance, etc.)  I can't see
>it but thought I'd ask since there are folks on the list who actually know
>about these things.
>
>Comments or help would be appreciated.
>
>Rob
>74 TR6 daily dribbler

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