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Re: [TR] Automotive relays

To: frede.thomas2@verizon.net, Dave1massey@cs.com, ZinkZ10C@aol.com,
Subject: Re: [TR] Automotive relays
From: DANMAS@aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:39:09 EST
Automotive relays, of the type found on auto parts store shelves, are  
sometimes referred to as "ice cube" relays because of their shape. They come in 
 
4-pin and 5-pin configurations, and all plug into the same socket. Four-pin  
relays are single pole, single throw. The terminals are 30, 87, 85, and 86.  
These 
terminal designations compare to a Lucas designations as: 85  and 86 equal 
Lucas W1 and W2, and are the relay coil terminals. 30 and  87 equal Lucas C1 
and 
C2, and are the switch contact terminals.
 
All five-pin relays are NOT alike. The terminals on a five-pin relay are  
either 30, 87, 87, 85, & 86, or 30, 87, 87a, 85, and 86. The four outer pins  
on 
these relays are the same as the four outer pins on a five-pin relay,  and any 
five-pin relay can be used as a four pin relay provided there is nothing  
wired to the center pin of the relay socket.
 
The difference between the two types of five-pin relays is in the center  pin 
- either 87 or 87a. If this center pin is labeled 87, then it is a single  
pole, single throw relay with an extra output terminal. The center 87 pin acts  
exactly like the other 87 pin, and both 87 pins are connected  to pin 30 when 
the relay is energized.  Both 87 terminals are  connected together inside the 
relay.
 
If the center pin is labeled 87a, then the relay is a single pole, double  
throw relay. In this relay, pin 87a is connected to pin 30 when the relay is  
OFF, and pin 87 is connected to pin 30 when the relay is ON.
 
Whenever you buy a relay, be sure to check the pin designation on the case  
of the relay before using it, as it is not uncommon to get the wrong relay when 
 taking them from the shelf - they are often mislabeled on the shelf, but 
very  rarely on the relay case.


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