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Re: [TR] Will a 'out-of-spot' tappet necessarily be higher, like this?

To: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>, Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Will a 'out-of-spot' tappet necessarily be higher, like this?
From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 12:57:27 -0400 (EDT)
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I'm wondering if a cylindrical magnet on an extendable rod (probably $4.99 at 
your local FLAPS) that fits through the head?  I've never tried it, mind you.  
A brass or bronze rod to keep it in place as you dislodge the magnet?

> On October 1, 2018 at 12:24 PM Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>     You don't want to force anything, meaning don't try to tap it down into 
> place.  
> 
>     As Bill said, the easiest is to pull the head.  Keep in mind if you do 
> that you need to use a new head gasket when re-installing the head and go 
> through proper torque procedures, all of which is easy to do, just make sure 
> you do it.
> 
>     As I was in your situation once, I'd take more time, and maybe a lot more 
> time, and take a flashlight and peak down the holes that have the tappets in 
> place so you know what it looks like, and then look down the one you're 
> dealing with, and with a long screwdriver try to coax that tappet back into 
> position.  If it's got plenty of oil on it, once it's aligned it should sink 
> down in place with little to no pushing from you.
> 
>     Also, as someone else said, check to see if you have a local Triumph 
> Club.  If you do, join it, and I'm sure there would be some members who would 
> love to come over and help you out.  It's what we do!  :-)
> 
>     Good luck,
> 
>     Rye Livingston
>     Activities Chairman
>     Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
>     Celebrating our 60 Year Anniversary
>     1960 TR3A
>     PH: 530-FIND-RYE
> 
>     On Sep 29, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>         > >         I received my new pushrod from Moss last night and was 
> impressed, it looks the same length as stock, but was slightly heavier by 
> weight.  Others had forewarned that it might be chinese, and it could still 
> be, although I don't know what would ever tell me if that were an issue.
> > 
> >         Right now, my emphasis is on getting the thing running. something 
> > it hasn't done in years. I remember saying that I had seen one pushrod in 
> > particular had non-concentric circles appearing down the pushrod tubes  and 
> > I surmised that this must be what everyone informed me must be an out of 
> > spot tappet that I had been warned about. Trouble is: I forgot to write 
> > down which one of the eight pushrod tubes that I had seen it in.
> >         I also might have worked that tappet over and in-line with the tube 
> > such that it now has the proper concentric circles.  On thing I do know for 
> > sure, is that one particular tappet causes it's pushrod to set a couple of 
> > inches higher ( as shown in the pic).  How do I get that tappet down? I 
> > slightly hit it's pushrod with my palm, but it would not drop down.  I do 
> > have an extra pushrod if others think I ought to tap it down using a 
> > pushrod,  Heck, I proably could use the old bent pushrod which I have now 
> > replaced, to tap it in place.  I just don't want to attempt this unless 
> > others give me a green light.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Thanks, Paul Dorsey  aka RUSTY ACRES
> > 
> > 
> >         Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com >
> > 
> >         1:32 PM (1 hour ago)
> > 
> >             
> >         to me
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >     > 


 

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gh the head?&#160; I&#39;ve never tried it, mind you.&#160; A brass or bron=
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s like, and then look down the one you&#39;re dealing with, and with a long=
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