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Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)

To: "Art McEwen" <amcewen2@cogeco.ca>,Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)
From: "Art McEwen" <amcewen2@cogeco.ca>
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:54:05 -0400
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Well Moss has a lt lead that will work with that plate but when I go to =
switch the 1 month old points/condenser from the old plate to the new on=
e I find the new one doesn=27t have a pivot post for the points assembly=
 grr=2E


So now I have to pay shipping for new points (=27cause they didn=27t tel=
l me that when they explained the plate difference)=2E


https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/locovgzt497v9zg/IMG=5F0782=2EJPG=3Fdl=3D=
0



On 10/15/18=2C =22Art McEwen=22  =3Camcewen2=40cogeco=2Eca=3E wrote=3A
=3E Thanks Randall=2C
=3E  =

=3E Yes they sent me=A0LU422318 according to the packaging=2E It appears=
 from britishvacuumunit=2Ecom that that part along with LU54413549 (moss=
 153-640) might work=2C although it=27s not clear from any of the photos=
 if that terminal connector is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 =
or *instead* of=A0the fork=2E =

=3E  =

=3E To further complicate things the internal contacts on=A0my=A0=22up s=
tyle=22=A0distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sidew=
ays style unit I picked up somewhere=2C but that means new leads=2E sigh=
=2E=2E=2E=2E
=3E  =

=3E Art
=3E  =

=3E On 10/15/18=2C Randall =3Ctr3driver=40ca=2Err=2Ecom=3E wrote=3A
=3E =

=3E =3E  40480D is an earlier model DM2P4 distributor=2E The information=
 I have handy
=3E =3E says 40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4=2C t=
he letter is
=3E =3E just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3=2C some of w=
hich were sold
=3E =3E in 1960=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E That same database says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B=2C which=
 is still a
=3E =3E DM2P4=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E The Moss catalog is certainly misleading=2C as they show a drawi=
ng of the
=3E =3E plate for a DM2P4=2C but the listing says it is for a 25D4=2E Th=
ey have no
=3E =3E listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not ava=
ilable)=2E I
=3E =3E believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078=2C w=
hich they have
=3E =3E listed as NLA=2E You might check with Revington=2C he seems to s=
ource a lot of
=3E =3E parts the others can=27t find=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E Faced with that same dilemma some years ago=2C I fabricated a mo=
unt for the
=3E =3E low tension lead that worked quite well=2E Just a stack of piece=
s of bare
=3E =3E fiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin=2C no coppe=
r plating)=2C
=3E =3E carved with a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight in the slot i=
n the
=3E =3E distributor cap=2E A small bolt through the center linked the tw=
o wires=2E
=3E =3E IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC board=2C one smaller to fit inside th=
e notch and
=3E =3E two slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch=2E A litt=
le extra work
=3E =3E to install the cap=2C as I had to hold the side wire to position=
 the new piece
=3E =3E in the slot=2C as I lowered the cap into place=2C but not too ba=
d=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E Later=2C I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor=2E
=3E =3E =

=3E =3E -- Randall =

=3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E -----Original Message-----
=3E =3E =3E From=3A Triumphs =5Bmailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=
=2Enet=5D =3Ctriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=5D=3E On =

=3E =3E =3E Behalf Of Art McEwen
=3E =3E =3E Sent=3A Sunday=2C October 14=2C 2018 7=3A19 PM
=3E =3E =3E To=3A triumphs=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet
=3E =3E =3E Subject=3A =5BTR=5D Name that distributor (TR3)
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Hi =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E The backing plate on my TR3=27s distributor has a lot of pla=
y =

=3E =3E =3E in it so timing is problematic=2E I ordered a new one from =

=3E =3E =3E Moss however that part (551-055) doesn=27t have the same tal=
l =

=3E =3E =3E attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap =

=3E =3E =3E (see old unit on the left)=3A =

=3E =3E =3E https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F201810=
14=5F1038057
=3E =3E =3E 63=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn=27=
t =

=3E =3E =3E seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if =
I =

=3E =3E =3E go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole)=2E =

=3E =3E =3E https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG=5F201810=
14=5F1047562
=3E =3E =3E 91=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Do I have a non-standard distributor=3F Any idea the right =

=3E =3E =3E part =23 for my backing plate=3F Or should I just bite the =

=3E =3E =3E bullet and go electronic=3F
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Thanks=2C
=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =3E Art =

=3E =3E =3E 1960 TR3A TS64989LO =

=3E =3E =3E =

=3E =3E =

=3E =3E =

=3E =3E =

=3E   =

=3E  =

=3E 

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=3Cdiv=3EWell Moss has a lt lead that will work with that plate but when=
 I go to switch the 1 month old points/condenser from the old plate to t=
he new one I find the new one doesn=27t have a pivot post for the points=
 assembly=A0 grr=2E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=3Cbr /=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3ESo no=
w I have to pay shipping for new points (=27cause they didn=27t tell me =
that when they explained the plate difference)=2E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=3Cb=
r /=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3Ehttps=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/locovgzt497v9zg=
/IMG=5F0782=2EJPG=3Fdl=3D0=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=3Cbr /=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cbr /=
=3E=3Cspan=3EOn 10/15/18=2C =3Cb class=3D=22name=22=3E=26quot=3BArt McEw=
en=26quot=3B =3C/b=3E =26lt=3Bamcewen2=40cogeco=2Eca=26gt=3B wrote=3A=3C=
/span=3E=3Cblockquote cite=3D=22mid=3A7240883f196f1=2E5bc46d11=40cgocabl=
e=2Eca=22 class=3D=22iwcQuote=22 style=3D=22border-left=3A 1px solid =23=
00F=3B padding-left=3A 13px=3B margin-left=3A 0=3B=22 type=3D=22cite=22=3E=
=3Cdiv class=3D=22mimepart text html=22=3E=3Cdiv=3EThanks Randall=2C=3C/=
div=3E=3Cdiv =3E=3Cbr/=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3EYes they sent me=A0LU422318 =
according to the packaging=2E=A0=A0 It appears from britishvacuumunit=2E=
com that that part along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640) might work=2C al=
though it=27s not clear from any of the photos if that terminal connecto=
r is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 or *instead* of=A0the fork=
=2E=A0 =3C/div=3E=3Cdiv =3E=3Cbr/=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3ETo further compli=
cate things the internal contacts on=A0my=A0=26quot=3Bup style=26quot=3B=
=A0distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sideways sty=
le unit I picked up somewhere=2C but that means new leads=2E=A0 sigh=2E=2E=
=2E=2E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv =3E=3Cbr/=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3EArt=3C/div=3E=3Cdi=
v=3E=3Cspan=3E=3C/span=3E=A0=3C/div=3E=3Cdiv=3E=3Cspan=3EOn 10/15/18=2C =
=3Cb class=3D=22name=22=3ERandall =3C/b=3E=26lt=3Btr3driver=40ca=2Err=2E=
com=26gt=3B wrote=3A=3C/span=3E=3C/div=3E=3Cblockquote cite=3D=22mid=3A0=
A6A4333BE9D494A946515E692B8272A=40LAPTOPM3GPCDH8=22 class=3D=22iwcQuote=22=
 style=3D=22PADDING-LEFT=3A 13px=3B MARGIN-LEFT=3A 0px=3B BORDER-LEFT=3A=
 =2300f 1px solid=22 type=3D=22cite=22=3E
=3Cdiv class=3D=22mimepart text plain=22=3E40480D is an earlier model DM=
2P4 distributor=2E=A0 The information I have handy=3Cbr /=3Esays 40480F =
(which is functionally the same and still DM2P4=2C the letter is=3Cbr /=3E=
just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3=2C some of which wer=
e sold=3Cbr /=3Ein 1960=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EThat same database says ca=
rs built in 1960 got 40698A/B=2C which is still a=3Cbr /=3EDM2P4=2E=3Cbr=
 /=3E=3Cbr /=3EThe Moss catalog is certainly misleading=2C as they show =
a drawing of the=3Cbr /=3Eplate for a DM2P4=2C but the listing says it i=
s for a 25D4=2E=A0 They have no=3Cbr /=3Elisting for the earlier part (w=
hich I assume means it is not available)=2E=A0 I=3Cbr /=3Ebelieve the eq=
uivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078=2C which they have=3Cbr /=3E=
listed as NLA=2E=A0 You might check with Revington=2C he seems to source=
 a lot of=3Cbr /=3Eparts the others can=27t find=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3EF=
aced with that same dilemma some years ago=2C I fabricated a mount for t=
he=3Cbr /=3Elow tension lead that worked quite well=2E=A0 Just a stack o=
f pieces of bare=3Cbr /=3Efiberglass printed circuit board (from the scr=
ap bin=2C no copper plating)=2C=3Cbr /=3Ecarved with a Dremel to fit snu=
g but not too tight in the slot in the=3Cbr /=3Edistributor cap=2E=A0 A =
small bolt through the center linked the two wires=2E=3Cbr /=3EIIRC I us=
ed 3 pieces of PC board=2C one smaller to fit inside the notch and=3Cbr =
/=3Etwo slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch=2E=A0 A littl=
e extra work=3Cbr /=3Eto install the cap=2C as I had to hold the side wi=
re to position the new piece=3Cbr /=3Ein the slot=2C as I lowered the ca=
p into place=2C but not too bad=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3ELater=2C I switche=
d to a (used) 25D4 distributor=2E=3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E-- Randall=A0 =3Cbr=
 /=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B -----Original Message-----=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Fro=
m=3A Triumphs =5B=3Ca href=3D=22mailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=
=2Enet=5D=22=3Emailto=3Atriumphs-bounces=40autox=2Eteam=2Enet=5D=3C/a=3E=
 On =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Behalf Of Art McEwen=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Sent=3A Su=
nday=2C October 14=2C 2018 7=3A19 PM=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B To=3A triumphs=40=
autox=2Eteam=2Enet=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Subject=3A =5BTR=5D Name that distr=
ibutor (TR3)=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B=A0 Hi=A0 =3Cbr /=3E=26=
gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B The backing plate on my TR3=27=
s distributor has a lot of play =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B in it so timing is pr=
oblematic=2E=A0 I ordered a new one from =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Moss however=
 that part (551-055) doesn=27t have the same tall =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B att=
achment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=
=3B (see old unit on the left)=3A =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Ca href=3D=22http=
s=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F20181014=5F1038057=22 =
target=3D=221=22=3Ehttps=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG=5F=
20181014=5F1038057=3C/a=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B 63=2Ejpg=3Fdl=3D0=3Cbr /=3E=
=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B The distributor is stampe=
d 40480D (see below) which doesn=27t =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B seem to be withi=
n the range of their 25D model matching (if I =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B go down=
 the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole)=2E =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =
=3Ca href=3D=22https=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG=5F201=
81014=5F1047562=22 target=3D=221=22=3Ehttps=3A//www=2Edropbox=2Ecom/s/s1=
ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG=5F20181014=5F1047562=3C/a=3E=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B 91=2Ejp=
g=3Fdl=3D0=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Do I have a non-standard=
 distributor=3F=A0 Any idea the right =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B part =23 for my=
 backing plate=3F=A0=A0 Or should I just bite the =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B bul=
let and go electronic=3F=3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Thanks=2C=3C=
br /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B Art =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B 1960 TR3A=A0 T=
S64989LO =3Cbr /=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr /=3E=3Cbr /=3E=3C/div=3E=3C/blockquote=
=3E
=3Cdiv =3E=3Cbr/=3E=3C/div=3E
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