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Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)

To: "'Art McEwen'" <amcewen2@cogeco.ca>, "'Randall'" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)
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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:03:41 -0500
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Art,

Can't you just cut the ends on the leads and fit them into the side entry
cap?

Bill

 

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art
McEwen
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 9:34 AM
To: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)

 

Thanks Randall,

 

Yes they sent me LU422318 according to the packaging.   It appears from
britishvacuumunit.com that that part along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640)
might work, although it's not clear from any of the photos if that terminal
connector is meant to fit *over* the fork of LU421078 or *instead* of the
fork.  

 

To further complicate things the internal contacts on my "up style"
distributor cap are pretty crappy and I have a brand new sideways style unit
I picked up somewhere, but that means new leads.  sigh....

 

Art

 

wrote:

40480D is an earlier model DM2P4 distributor.  The information I have handy
says 40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4, the letter is
just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3, some of which were sold
in 1960.

That same database says cars built in 1960 got 40698A/B, which is still a
DM2P4.

The Moss catalog is certainly misleading, as they show a drawing of the
plate for a DM2P4, but the listing says it is for a 25D4.  They have no
listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not available).  I
believe the equivalent part number at TRF would be LU421078, which they have
listed as NLA.  You might check with Revington, he seems to source a lot of
parts the others can't find.

Faced with that same dilemma some years ago, I fabricated a mount for the
low tension lead that worked quite well.  Just a stack of pieces of bare
fiberglass printed circuit board (from the scrap bin, no copper plating),
carved with a Dremel to fit snug but not too tight in the slot in the
distributor cap.  A small bolt through the center linked the two wires.
IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC board, one smaller to fit inside the notch and
two slightly larger to fit on either side of the notch.  A little extra work
to install the cap, as I had to hold the side wire to position the new piece
in the slot, as I lowered the cap into place, but not too bad.

Later, I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor.

-- Randall  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On 
> Behalf Of Art McEwen
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 7:19 PM
> Subject: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)
> 
>  Hi  
> 
> 
> The backing plate on my TR3's distributor has a lot of play 
> in it so timing is problematic.  I ordered a new one from 
> Moss however that part (551-055) doesn't have the same tall 
> attachment for the low tension lead leading outside the cap 
> (see old unit on the left): 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057
> 63.jpg?dl=0
> 
> 
> The distributor is stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't 
> seem to be within the range of their 25D model matching (if I 
> go down the electronic replacement match-up rabbit hole). 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181014_1047562
> 91.jpg?dl=0
> 
> Do I have a non-standard distributor?  Any idea the right 
> part # for my backing plate?   Or should I just bite the 
> bullet and go electronic?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Art 
> 1960 TR3A  TS64989LO 
> 

 


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>Can&#8217;t you just cut the ends on the leads and fit them into the =
side entry cap?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Art McEwen<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 15, 2018 9:34 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Randall &lt;tr3driver@ca.rr.com&gt;; =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Name that =
distributor (TR3)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks =
Randall,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Yes they sent me&nbsp;LU422318 according to the =
packaging.&nbsp;&nbsp; It appears from britishvacuumunit.com that that =
part along with LU54413549 (moss 153-640) might work, although it's not =
clear from any of the photos if that terminal connector is meant to fit =
*over* the fork of LU421078 or *instead* of&nbsp;the fork.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>To further complicate things the internal contacts =
on&nbsp;my&nbsp;&quot;up style&quot;&nbsp;distributor cap are pretty =
crappy and I have a brand new sideways style unit I picked up somewhere, =
but that means new leads.&nbsp; sigh....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Art<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 10/15/18, <b>Randall </b>&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.com";>tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
10.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>40480D is an earlier =
model DM2P4 distributor.&nbsp; The information I have handy<br>says =
40480F (which is functionally the same and still DM2P4, the letter =
is<br>just a revision level) was used as late as 1959 TR3, some of which =
were sold<br>in 1960.<br><br>That same database says cars built in 1960 =
got 40698A/B, which is still a<br>DM2P4.<br><br>The Moss catalog is =
certainly misleading, as they show a drawing of the<br>plate for a =
DM2P4, but the listing says it is for a 25D4.&nbsp; They have =
no<br>listing for the earlier part (which I assume means it is not =
available).&nbsp; I<br>believe the equivalent part number at TRF would =
be LU421078, which they have<br>listed as NLA.&nbsp; You might check =
with Revington, he seems to source a lot of<br>parts the others can't =
find.<br><br>Faced with that same dilemma some years ago, I fabricated a =
mount for the<br>low tension lead that worked quite well.&nbsp; Just a =
stack of pieces of bare<br>fiberglass printed circuit board (from the =
scrap bin, no copper plating),<br>carved with a Dremel to fit snug but =
not too tight in the slot in the<br>distributor cap.&nbsp; A small bolt =
through the center linked the two wires.<br>IIRC I used 3 pieces of PC =
board, one smaller to fit inside the notch and<br>two slightly larger to =
fit on either side of the notch.&nbsp; A little extra work<br>to install =
the cap, as I had to hold the side wire to position the new piece<br>in =
the slot, as I lowered the cap into place, but not too =
bad.<br><br>Later, I switched to a (used) 25D4 distributor.<br><br>-- =
Randall&nbsp; <br><br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; From: =
Triumphs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net]";>mailto:triumphs-bounces@=
autox.team.net]</a> On <br>&gt; Behalf Of Art McEwen<br>&gt; Sent: =
Sunday, October 14, 2018 7:19 PM<br>&gt; To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>&g=
t; Subject: [TR] Name that distributor (TR3)<br>&gt; <br>&gt;&nbsp; =
Hi&nbsp; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; The backing plate on my TR3's =
distributor has a lot of play <br>&gt; in it so timing is =
problematic.&nbsp; I ordered a new one from <br>&gt; Moss however that =
part (551-055) doesn't have the same tall <br>&gt; attachment for the =
low tension lead leading outside the cap <br>&gt; (see old unit on the =
left): <br>&gt; <a =
href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057"; =
target=3Dl>https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzxo5gpd3tnuaei/IMG_20181014_1038057=
</a><br>&gt; 63.jpg?dl=3D0<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; The distributor is =
stamped 40480D (see below) which doesn't <br>&gt; seem to be within the =
range of their 25D model matching (if I <br>&gt; go down the electronic =
replacement match-up rabbit hole). <br>&gt; <a =
href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181014_1047562"; =
target=3Dl>https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1ghm1wradmp3xw/IMG_20181014_1047562=
</a><br>&gt; 91.jpg?dl=3D0<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Do I have a non-standard =
distributor?&nbsp; Any idea the right <br>&gt; part # for my backing =
plate?&nbsp;&nbsp; Or should I just bite the <br>&gt; bullet and go =
electronic?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Art <br>&gt; 1960 =
TR3A&nbsp; TS64989LO <br>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p =
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