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To: David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 wiring
From: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 16:39:30 -0800 (PST)
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Excellent suggestion.=20

Before you decide on the overall wiring job, hot wire it and see if it will=
 run. =20

I did this on my recent find, which may have not been run in at least 20 ye=
ars.

I oiled the cylinders, adjusted the valves (which were way off), cranked it=
 around and got oil pressure (the oil level was full and looked fresh), san=
ded the points and got spark, removed and clean the carbs (replacing the fl=
oat bowls and floats), set the jet heights with calipers, hung a remote fue=
l supply and installed good used spark plugs.  It then started, almost imme=
diately and sounded very good.=20

I ran a wire directly from the battery to the coil with a switch in-line an=
d jumped the starter solenoid with a screw driver.

Now, I'll completely tear the car down for restoration.=20

It too will need a new wire harness.  I'm interested in the Advanced Autowi=
re recommendation.  I wired my street/race TR3 with a modern aftermarket ha=
rness by Painless.  It's an 18 circuit universal harness and it has been wo=
rking perfectly.  I run full road equipment, minus wipers. =20

Of course there is nothing wrong with going factory stock and Lucus compone=
nts, I just decided otherwise.  I'm running extra/AutoMeter gauges, tempera=
ture senders, electric fan, mini alternator and starter, interior and trunk=
 lighting and other items that that Painless harness can fully accommodate =
out-of-the-box.

You can view my YouTube (Dave Hogye) restoration video to see some of the d=
etails.  The wiring shots are pretty crazy. =20

Dave H.



> On December 26, 2018 at 9:13 AM David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com> wrote=
:
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>     Well, given the overall condition, I'd make sure it runs before I wen=
t any further. One or two wires is all you need for that, then given it run=
s, pull the motor and take care of the much needed cosmetics ahead of the h=
arness.
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>     DaveP
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>     On 12/26/2018 8:27 AM, Dave Connitt wrote:
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>         > >=20
> >         Hi Dave,
> >=20
> >         I installed a Advanced Autowire harness in my TR4A and am extre=
mely happy with the result. I placed the =E2=80=9Cpower block=E2=80=9D in t=
he passenger footwell so it=E2=80=99s not apparent that I have a non-stock =
harness. It has provisions for emergency flasher, a master relay so the onl=
y power going thru the ignition switch is to the coil of a master relay, el=
ectric fan relay and much larger gauge wires that have use the same color c=
ode as the stock Triumph.
> >=20
> >         My .02,
> >=20
> >         Dave Connitt
> >=20
> >         DavesTR4A.com
> >=20
> >         =20
> >=20
> >         =20
> >=20
> >         From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> mailto:triumph=
s-bounces@autox.team.net On Behalf Of dave
> >         Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:28 PM
> >         To: triumphs@autox.team.net mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net
> >         Subject: [TR] TR3 wiring
> >=20
> >         =20
> >=20
> >         Just picked up a car and the engine wiring is a mess due to an =
engine compartment fire some years ago.
> >=20
> >         =20
> >=20
> >         Is there just an engine harness available?  I see moss has =E2=
=80=9Cfull set=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cauxiliary=E2=80=9D which appears to ha=
ve the lights etc.  I=E2=80=99m not sure what all that means.  Does anyone =
know or do I need to call Moss?
> >=20
> >         =20
> >=20
> >         Or should I just build my own and link it to the existing wires=
?  That=E2=80=99s no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other cars=
 and british wiring can supply me with the correct wires.
> >=20
> >=20
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    <meta charset=3D"UTF-8">
</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Excellent suggestion.&#160; </p><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(=
51, 51, 51);">Before you decide on the overall wiring job, hot wire it and =
see if it will run.&#160;&#160;</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family=
: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I did this on my r=
ecent find, which may have not been run in at least 20 years.</p><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(=
51, 51, 51);">I oiled the cylinders, adjusted the valves (which were way of=
f), cranked it around and got oil pressure (the oil level was full and look=
ed fresh), sanded the points and got spark, removed and clean the carbs (re=
placing the float bowls and floats), set the jet heights with calipers, hun=
g a remote fuel supply and installed good used spark plugs.&#160; It then s=
tarted, almost immediately and sounded very good.&#160; </p><p style=3D"fon=
t-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51,=
 51);">I ran a wire directly from the battery to the coil with a switch in-=
line and jumped the starter solenoid with a screw driver.</p><p style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51=
, 51);">Now, I&#39;ll completely tear the car down for restoration.&#160; <=
/p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">It too will need a new wire harness.&#160; I&#39;m=
 interested in the Advanced Autowire recommendation.&#160; I wired my stree=
t/race TR3 with a modern aftermarket harness by Painless.&#160; It&#39;s an=
 18 circuit universal harness and it has been working perfectly.&#160; I ru=
n full road equipment, minus wipers.&#160;&#160;</p><p style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">O=
f course there is nothing wrong with going factory stock and Lucus componen=
ts, I just decided otherwise.&#160; I&#39;m running extra/AutoMeter gauges,=
 temperature senders, electric fan, mini alternator and starter, interior a=
nd trunk lighting and other items that that Painless harness can fully acco=
mmodate out-of-the-box.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvet=
ica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">You can view my YouTube (D=
ave Hogye) restoration video to see some of the details.&#160; The wiring s=
hots are pretty crazy.&#160;&#160;</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fam=
ily: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Dave H.</p><p s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helveti=
ca, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On December 26, 2018 at 9:13 AM David P &#60;frogeye@porterscustom.c=
om&#62; wrote: <br> <br><p>Well, given the overall condition, I&#39;d make =
sure it runs before I went any further. One or two wires is all you need fo=
r that, then given it runs, pull the motor and take care of the much needed=
 cosmetics ahead of the harness.</p><p>DaveP<br></p><div class=3D"ox-90265b=
5307-moz-cite-prefix">On 12/26/2018 8:27 AM, Dave Connitt wrote: <br></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"ox-90265b5307-WordSection1"><p clas=
s=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family=
: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Hi Dave, </span></p><p class=3D"ox-902=
65b5307-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',s=
ans-serif; color: black;">I installed a Advanced Autowire harness in my TR4=
A and am extremely happy with the result. I placed the &#8220;power block&#=
8221; in the passenger footwell so it&#8217;s not apparent that I have a no=
n-stock harness. It has provisions for emergency flasher, a master relay so=
 the only power going thru the ignition switch is to the coil of a master r=
elay, electric fan relay and much larger gauge wires that have use the same=
 color code as the stock Triumph. </span></p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; c=
olor: black;">My .02, </span></p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;=
">Dave Connitt </span></p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;">Dave=
sTR4A.com </span></p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> &#160; </=
span></p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.=
0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> &#160; </span></p><di=
v><div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1; padding: 3.0pt 0in=
 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Triu=
mphs <a class=3D"ox-90265b5307-moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:triump=
hs-bounces@autox.team.net">&#60;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&#62;</a> <s=
trong>On Behalf Of </strong>dave<br> <strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, Decemb=
er 25, 2018 10:28 PM<br> <strong>To:</strong> <a class=3D"ox-90265b5307-moz=
-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br> <strong>Subject:</strong> [TR] TR3 wiring</p></div></di=
v><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-=
MsoNormal">Just picked up a car and the engine wiring is a mess due to an e=
ngine compartment fire some years ago.</p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNorm=
al">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNormal">Is there just an engine =
harness available?&#160; I see moss has &#8220;full set&#8221; and &#8220;a=
uxiliary&#8221; which appears to have the lights etc.&#160; I&#8217;m not s=
ure what all that means.&#160; Does anyone know or do I need to call Moss?<=
/p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307=
-MsoNormal">Or should I just build my own and link it to the existing wires=
?&#160; That&#8217;s no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other c=
ars and british wiring can supply me with the correct wires.</p></div><br><=
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