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Subject: [TR] A flood of flukes
From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 17:03:59 -0400 (EDT)
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My wife had an old college roommate over for lunch on Sunday, so better part of 
valor I made myself scarce with a 4 and a half hour aimless drive in the TR3.  
I should say four hours and twenty-eight minutes, because exactly two minutes 
from home the car lost all power.  No coughing, stumbling, fluttering.  Just 
total power one minute, complete shutdown the next. 


Towed it home with the loader, got it in the garage and went to work testing.  
No spark out of the plugs.  Good spark out of the coil.  Swapped the Pertronix 
unit out for points, engine started and car ran fine.  I think I'm done with 
electronic ignitions.  I very likely killed the thing leaving the key on or 
somesuch idiocy to which I am prone.  Fluke number one. 


Next I ran it up to temperature at high idle so I could check the mixture one 
last time, I noticed it was overheating.  There are no knocks, rattles or 
grindings going on.  Oil pressure is steady and good.  Tested this twice, so 
I've either got a water pump or thermostat problem.  Fluke number two. 


Happen to have a new spare water pump already so I thought to replace both the 
thermostat and pump while the coolant was already drained.   I got under the 
car to unscrew the plug from the radiator to let the water out.  Got the plug 
out, then noticed that not only the plug came out, but the threaded housing 
came out with it.  Apparently it's like a plug within a plug, one threaded, the 
other weakly soldered it in.  This is one of the new radiators from one of the 
Big 3. Fluke number three. 


Gadfrey. 


Spent today pulling the valence and the radiator.  I'll take it to some 
radiator place to have the plug housing brazed in instead of soldered.  At 
least getting at the water pump is going to be easier. 


Terry Smith, '59 TR3A  TS 58667

New Hampshire



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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans=
-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">My wife had an old college roommate over f=
or lunch on Sunday, so better part of valor I made myself scarce with a 4 a=
nd a half hour aimless drive in the TR3.&#160; I should say four hours and =
twenty-eight minutes, because exactly two minutes from home the car lost al=
l power.&#160; No coughing, stumbling, fluttering.&#160; Just total power o=
ne minute, complete shutdown the next.&#160; <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:=
 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><b=
r></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif;=
 color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Towed it home with the loader, got it in the gara=
ge and went to work testing.&#160; No spark out of the plugs.&#160; Good sp=
ark out of the coil.&#160; Swapped the Pertronix unit out for points, engin=
e started and car ran fine.&#160; I think I&#39;m done with electronic igni=
tions.&#160; I very likely killed the thing leaving the key on or somesuch =
idiocy to which I am prone.&#160; Fluke number one.&#160; <br></p><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51=
, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,ari=
al,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Next I ran it up to temperature at =
high idle so I could check the mixture one last time, I noticed it was over=
heating.&#160; There are no knocks, rattles or grindings going on.&#160; Oi=
l pressure is steady and good.&#160; Tested this twice, so I&#39;ve either =
got a water pump or thermostat problem.&#160; Fluke number two.&#160; </p><=
p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color:=
 rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvet=
ica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Happen to have a new spare w=
ater pump already so I thought to replace both the thermostat and pump whil=
e the coolant was already drained.&#160;&#160; I got under the car to unscr=
ew the plug from the radiator to let the water out.&#160; Got the plug out,=
 then noticed that not only the plug came out, but the threaded housing cam=
e out with it.&#160; Apparently it&#39;s like a plug within a plug, one thr=
eaded, the other weakly soldered it in.&#160; This is one of the new radiat=
ors from one of the Big 3. Fluke number three.&#160; <br></p><p style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, =
51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,san=
s-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Gadfrey.&#160; <br></p><p style=3D"font-s=
ize: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);=
"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-se=
rif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Spent today pulling the valence and the radia=
tor.&#160; I&#39;ll take it to some radiator place to have the plug housing=
 brazed in instead of soldered.&#160; At least getting at the water pump is=
 going to be easier.&#160; <br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family=
: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"=
font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51=
, 51);">Terry Smith, &#39;59 TR3A&#160; TS 58667<br></p><p style=3D"font-si=
ze: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"=
>New Hampshire<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,a=
rial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12=
pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br><=
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