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An alternate to carrying a complete dizzy is to buy a points plate from Jef=
f at Advanced Distributor. Once you get it, put it in to set the point gap,=
then pull it back out and put it in the boot for that rare occasion when y=
our Pertronix fails. Advantages are smaller, cheaper and no need to futz wi=
th the timing. Swap out time is quick too. Only other advice is to have an =
extra (small) screw or two 'cause they're easy to lose!
Joel Justin...
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From: dave@ranteer.com <dave@ranteer.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 7:50 PM
To: triumphs
Subject: Re: [TR] A flood of flukes
I had a drive ruined by a pertronics failing. first one, then two of the m=
agnets fell out.
but I always carry a full distributor, with points, rotor, cap, and labeled=
wires, ready to drop in, already timing set. this was on the tr4, which I=
've only had for about 5 years.
for those of you who are sunday drivers, I can understand it. but we get b=
etter performance out of the pertronix. my son seriously autocrosses the T=
R6, and has trophies to prove it. have had that car since 2001, and a pert=
ronix for most of those years. never a problem. the failures are few and =
far between, but if it happens on your car its 100%!
love the pertronix, but have a backup.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [TR] A flood of flukes
wbeech@flash.net>>
Date: Tue, June 25, 2019 7:30 pm
Ouch, at least you had a nice 4+ hour drive. Not a fan of electronic igni=
tion, just call me an old pointy head.
Bill
tS30800L
Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X
s@comcast.net>> wrote:
My wife had an old college roommate over for lunch on Sunday, so better par=
t of valor I made myself scarce with a 4 and a half hour aimless drive in t=
he TR3. I should say four hours and twenty-eight minutes, because exactly =
two minutes from home the car lost all power. No coughing, stumbling, flut=
tering. Just total power one minute, complete shutdown the next.
Towed it home with the loader, got it in the garage and went to work testin=
g. No spark out of the plugs. Good spark out of the coil. Swapped the Pe=
rtronix unit out for points, engine started and car ran fine. I think I'm =
done with electronic ignitions. I very likely killed the thing leaving the=
key on or somesuch idiocy to which I am prone. Fluke number one.
Next I ran it up to temperature at high idle so I could check the mixture o=
ne last time, I noticed it was overheating. There are no knocks, rattles o=
r grindings going on. Oil pressure is steady and good. Tested this twice,=
so I've either got a water pump or thermostat problem. Fluke number two.
Happen to have a new spare water pump already so I thought to replace both =
the thermostat and pump while the coolant was already drained. I got unde=
r the car to unscrew the plug from the radiator to let the water out. Got =
the plug out, then noticed that not only the plug came out, but the threade=
d housing came out with it. Apparently it's like a plug within a plug, one=
threaded, the other weakly soldered it in. This is one of the new radiato=
rs from one of the Big 3. Fluke number three.
Gadfrey.
Spent today pulling the valence and the radiator. I'll take it to some rad=
iator place to have the plug housing brazed in instead of soldered. At lea=
st getting at the water pump is going to be easier.
Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667
New Hampshire
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An alternate to carrying a complete dizzy is to buy a points plate from Jef=
f at Advanced Distributor. Once you get it, put it in to set the point gap,=
then pull it back out and put it in the boot for that rare occasion when y=
our Pertronix fails. Advantages
are smaller, cheaper and no need to futz with the timing. Swap out time is=
quick too. Only other advice is to have an extra (small) screw or two 'cau=
se they're easy to lose!</div>
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Joel Justin...</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 25, 2019 7:50 PM<br>
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<div> I had a drive ruined by a pertronics failing. first one, th=
en two of the magnets fell out.</div>
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<div>but I always carry a full distributor, with points, rotor, cap, and la=
beled wires, ready to drop in, already timing set. this was on the tr=
4, which I've only had for about 5 years.</div>
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<div>for those of you who are sunday drivers, I can understand it. bu=
t we get better performance out of the pertronix. my son seriously au=
tocrosses the TR6, and has trophies to prove it. have had that car si=
nce 2001, and a pertronix for most of those years.
never a problem. the failures are few and far between, but if it hap=
pens on your car its 100%!</div>
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<div>love the pertronix, but have a backup.</div>
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<div id=3D"x_wmQuoteWrapper">-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] A flood of flukes<br>
From: "<a href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net";>Wbeech@flash.net</a>" =
<<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net";>wbeech@flash.net</a>><br>
Date: Tue, June 25, 2019 7:30 pm<br>
To: TERRY SMITH <<a href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net";>terryrs@comcast.=
net</a>><br>
Cc: triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.=
team.net</a>><br>
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Ouch, at least you had a nice 4+ hour drive. Not a fan of electr=
onic ignition, just call me an old pointy head.
<div>Bill</div>
<div>tS30800L<br>
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On Jun 25, 2019, at 4:03 PM, TERRY SMITH <<a href=3D"mailto:terryrs@comc=
ast.net" target=3D"_blank">terryrs@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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My wife had an old college roommate over for lunch on Sunday, so better par=
t of valor I made myself scarce with a 4 and a half hour aimless drive in t=
he TR3. I should say four hours and twenty-eight minutes, because exa=
ctly two minutes from home the car lost
all power. No coughing, stumbling, fluttering. Just total powe=
r one minute, complete shutdown the next.
<br>
</div>
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
Towed it home with the loader, got it in the garage and went to work testin=
g. No spark out of the plugs. Good spark out of the coil. =
Swapped the Pertronix unit out for points, engine started and car ran fine=
. I think I'm done with electronic ignitions.
I very likely killed the thing leaving the key on or somesuch idiocy to wh=
ich I am prone. Fluke number one.
<br>
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
Next I ran it up to temperature at high idle so I could check the mixture o=
ne last time, I noticed it was overheating. There are no knocks, ratt=
les or grindings going on. Oil pressure is steady and good. Tes=
ted this twice, so I've either got a water pump
or thermostat problem. Fluke number two. </div>
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
Happen to have a new spare water pump already so I thought to replace both =
the thermostat and pump while the coolant was already drained. =
I got under the car to unscrew the plug from the radiator to let the water =
out. Got the plug out, then noticed that
not only the plug came out, but the threaded housing came out with it.&nbs=
p; Apparently it's like a plug within a plug, one threaded, the other weakl=
y soldered it in. This is one of the new radiators from one of the Bi=
g 3. Fluke number three.
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:rgb(51,51,51)">
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Gadfrey. <br>
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Spent today pulling the valence and the radiator. I'll take it to som=
e radiator place to have the plug housing brazed in instead of soldered.&nb=
sp; At least getting at the water pump is going to be easier.
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Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667<br>
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New Hampshire<br>
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