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Re: [TR] Sleepless in Ocala

To: "Wbeech@flash.net" <wbeech@flash.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Sleepless in Ocala
From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 20:34:42 -0500
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I wouldn't rule out fuel blockage, the higher rate of flow when the car is
running can pull sediment or even a chunk of something  to a restriction
point such as the fuel line connection at the bottom of the tank, and when
you stop pressure releases and fuel can dribble through again.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 7:47 PM Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:

> Do you have a spare electric pump on hand.  Stick it in line and see if
> that works.   I was first thinking you were not getting fuel from the tan=
k
> but you say you confirmed that is not it.
> Bill
>
> Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X
>
> On Jul 11, 2019, at 6:53 PM, James Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That=E2=80=99s was my thought too as I ponder the simple mechanics of it =
all.  In
> my 25 years with TRs, I=E2=80=99ve never had that issue when changing a p=
ump.   I
> did replace pump since previous one was part of original failure.  It was=
 a
> cheap $39 one from moss.  I didn=E2=80=99t buy it came installed on he ca=
r.  It is
> a piece of junk.  I put on a spare new repro  from TRF and works.  I=E2=
=80=99ll
> have to take pump off and see if issue with priming lever.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 11, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com> wrote=
:
> >
> >
> > My only thought is that the priming lever is working, but perhaps there
> is an issue with the pump being driven from the cam shaft.  Have you
> changed the pump recently?  Can you pull the pump off the engine, leaving
> the lines connected, and see if it pumps fuel when you operate the lever
> that the cam drives?
> >
> >> On Jul 11, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> List:
> >> I have spent many an hour and part trying to track down my running
> issue on
> >> the 60 TR3A.  Car starts up fine with cold start.  Runs for about a
> minute
> >> and stalls out.  Float bowls are both near empty.  Switched fuel pumps
> and
> >> fuel lines, new clear filter near carb, new needle and seats on both
> carbs.
> >> Still happens.  After it stalls, I can manually prime fuel with handle
> on
> >> fuel pump and it fills both bowls up with fuel without a problem.
> Start her
> >> up and runs for a minute until gas gone.  Lift off fuel bowl tops and
> floats
> >> at bottom with no gas.  Both float needles are down when I lift off fu=
el
> >> bowl tops which would allow gas in.  I cleaned and checked all fuel
> lines,
> >> passageways in fuel bowl tops, etc.  I have plenty of fuel in the fuel
> pump
> >> bowl so don't think there is problem getting gas to pump.
> >>
> >> Why is it not allowing gas in the fuel bowls when running?  The pump
> allows
> >> it in when not running?
> >>
> >> Any help greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Jim Henningsen
> >> Ocala, FL
> >> 60 TR3A
> >> 61 TR3A
> >> 62 TR4
> >> 75 TR6
> >>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I wouldn&#39;t rule out fuel blockage, the higher rate of=
 flow when the car is running can pull sediment or even a chunk of somethin=
g=C2=A0 to a restriction point such as the fuel line connection at the bott=
om of the tank, and when you stop pressure releases and fuel can dribble th=
rough again.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><=
div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 7:47 PM <a href=3D"mail=
to:Wbeech@flash.net">Wbeech@flash.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flas=
h.net">wbeech@flash.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">Do you have a spare electric pump on hand.=C2=A0 Stick it in line and s=
ee if that works.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I was first thinking you were not getting fue=
l from the tank but you say you confirmed that is not it.=C2=A0 <br>
Bill<br>
<br>
Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X<br>
<br>
On Jul 11, 2019, at 6:53 PM, James Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:trguy75=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">trguy75@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
<br>
That=E2=80=99s was my thought too as I ponder the simple mechanics of it al=
l.=C2=A0 In my 25 years with TRs, I=E2=80=99ve never had that issue when ch=
anging a pump.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I did replace pump since previous one was part o=
f original failure.=C2=A0 It was a cheap $39 one from moss.=C2=A0 I didn=E2=
=80=99t buy it came installed on he car.=C2=A0 It is a piece of junk.=C2=A0=
 I put on a spare new repro=C2=A0 from TRF and works.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ll ha=
ve to take pump off and see if issue with priming lever.=C2=A0 <br>
Thanks<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jul 11, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:darr=
ellw360@mac.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">darrellw360@mac.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; My only thought is that the priming lever is working, but perhaps ther=
e is an issue with the pump being driven from the cam shaft.=C2=A0 Have you=
 changed the pump recently?=C2=A0 Can you pull the pump off the engine, lea=
ving the lines connected, and see if it pumps fuel when you operate the lev=
er that the cam drives?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; On Jul 11, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
trguy75@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">trguy75@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; List:<br>
&gt;&gt; I have spent many an hour and part trying to track down my running=
 issue on<br>
&gt;&gt; the 60 TR3A.=C2=A0 Car starts up fine with cold start.=C2=A0 Runs =
for about a minute<br>
&gt;&gt; and stalls out.=C2=A0 Float bowls are both near empty.=C2=A0 Switc=
hed fuel pumps and<br>
&gt;&gt; fuel lines, new clear filter near carb, new needle and seats on bo=
th carbs.<br>
&gt;&gt; Still happens.=C2=A0 After it stalls, I can manually prime fuel wi=
th handle on<br>
&gt;&gt; fuel pump and it fills both bowls up with fuel without a problem.=
=C2=A0 Start her<br>
&gt;&gt; up and runs for a minute until gas gone.=C2=A0 Lift off fuel bowl =
tops and floats<br>
&gt;&gt; at bottom with no gas.=C2=A0 Both float needles are down when I li=
ft off fuel<br>
&gt;&gt; bowl tops which would allow gas in.=C2=A0 I cleaned and checked al=
l fuel lines,<br>
&gt;&gt; passageways in fuel bowl tops, etc.=C2=A0 I have plenty of fuel in=
 the fuel pump<br>
&gt;&gt; bowl so don&#39;t think there is problem getting gas to pump.=C2=
=A0 <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Why is it not allowing gas in the fuel bowls when running?=C2=A0 T=
he pump allows<br>
&gt;&gt; it in when not running?=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Any help greatly appreciated.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Jim Henningsen<br>
&gt;&gt; Ocala, FL<br>
&gt;&gt; 60 TR3A<br>
&gt;&gt; 61 TR3A<br>
&gt;&gt; 62 TR4<br>
&gt;&gt; 75 TR6<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
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