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Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas PI

To: Roger Elliott <elliottr@rmi.net>, triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Lucas PI
From: Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 22:45:20 -0400
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MSII-Extra?? ... two LBC's converted now

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On 8/31/2019 3:31 PM, Roger Elliott wrote:

> Paul, Did you do the megasquirt F.I. ?
>
> Roger
>
> On 8/31/19 11:51 AM, Paul Tegler wrote:
>>
>> Granted it's not the 2.5L, (a GT6 2L) but I (and a couple others here 
>> as well) have F.I. triumph 6 cyls than run great!
>> Even with a trailer in tow,?? 31-35 mpg, is my norm ...with my normal 
>> heavy footed driving style. (hard not to have fun).
>> No,,,not Lucas PI (on mine) but power numbers are well above anything 
>> Triumph ever spec'ed.
>>
>> ptegler (owner/builder of FIS6)
>>
>>
>> On 8/31/2019 11:51 AM, John Macartney wrote:
>>> If all you want is an injected TR performance, I???d do this. Buy a 
>>> us spec car.
>>>
>>> TR5 camshaft, still available in U.K. and a bit better too than the 
>>> original. Shave the head to at least 9.5:1, fit flat top pistons, a 
>>> Lucas D25 or 26 dizzy, the equivalent of the SAH 6-3-1 extractor 
>>> exhaust manifold, two 1.75 SU carbs and bingo, you???re there. 
>>> Ideally, if the donor car is a late model 6, email Chris Witor in 
>>> the U.K. for a 215019 head. These didn???t go to the US but we???re 
>>> the best heads of the lot. Chris will confirm this and he???s a 
>>> Triumph performance specialist. Goes without saying you???ll need 
>>> anoverdrive. J type is ok but A type better imho. You???ll then have 
>>> a car that is the injected versions performance equal in every way. 
>>> These things are what we do in the U.K. to all 250s and carbed 6s 
>>> that find their way back here. Good luck
>>>
>>> Jonmac
>>>
>>> Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it is 
>>> better to lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL
>>>
>>> On 30 Aug 2019, at 15:43, Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net 
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Jonmac:?? I don???t have the car yet ??? and in fact am 
>>>> still going back-and-forth about whether to buy it.?? I???ll keep 
>>>> you posted !
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>> *From:*John Macartney [mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:50 PM
>>>> *To:* Andrew Uprichard
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [6pack] Lucas PI
>>>>
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>> Can I help? Did the Lucas Service course, thefactory service course 
>>>> and owned a saloon with the pi engine to full U.K. police 
>>>> performance spec. Doubt you???ll find too many in the US with 
>>>> experience of the system. PI cars were never sold in North America 
>>>> in the day, though a very small number have snuck in since then. A 
>>>> word of advice. If you???re tempted to fiddle with the PI system, 
>>>> put everything you???ve learned about carbed cars entirely to one 
>>>> side. The Lucas system is a whole different ball game with very 
>>>> unique rules. That said, it???s a great setup but you need to know 
>>>> what you???re doing before you start:)
>>>>
>>>> ??
>>>>
>>>> Jonmac
>>>>
>>>> Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it 
>>>> is better to lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Aug 2019, at 22:20, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack 
>>>>
>>>>     Who is the go-to guy in the US for questions on the Lucas PI
>>>>     system?
>>>>
>>>>     ??
>>>>
>>>>     Andrew Uprichard
>>>>
>>>>     Jackson, Michigan
>>>>
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    <p>MSII-Extra?? ... two LBC's converted now</p>
    <p>ptegler</p>
    <p>On 8/31/2019 3:31 PM, Roger Elliott wrote:<br>
    </p>
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      cite="mid:ea5f367f-a4d1-3eac-f260-0b01af6004e8@rmi.net">
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      <p>Paul, Did you do the megasquirt F.I. ?<br>
      </p>
      <p>Roger<br>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/31/19 11:51 AM, Paul Tegler
        wrote:<br>
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        <p>Granted it's not the 2.5L, (a GT6 2L) but I (and a couple
          others here as well) have F.I. triumph 6 cyls than run great!<br>
          Even with a trailer in tow,?? 31-35 mpg, is my norm ...with my
          normal heavy footed driving style. (hard not to have fun).<br>
          No,,,not Lucas PI (on mine) but power numbers are well above
          anything Triumph ever spec'ed.</p>
        <p>ptegler (owner/builder of FIS6)</p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/31/2019 11:51 AM, John
          Macartney wrote:<br>
        </div>
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          cite="mid:3D0DBD17-DEBD-439D-8094-10714FAAE165@Ukpips.org.uk">
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          If all you want is an injected TR performance, I???d do this.
          Buy a us spec car.
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>TR5 camshaft, still available in U.K. and a bit better
            too than the original. Shave the head to at least 9.5:1, fit
            flat top pistons, a Lucas D25 or 26 dizzy, the equivalent of
            the SAH 6-3-1 extractor exhaust manifold, two 1.75 SU carbs
            and bingo, you???re there. Ideally, if the donor car is a
            late model 6, email Chris Witor in the U.K. for a 215019
            head. These didn???t go to the US but we???re the best heads
            of the lot. Chris will confirm this and he???s a Triumph
            performance specialist. Goes without saying you???ll need
            anoverdrive. J type is ok but A type better imho. You???ll
            then have a car that is the injected versions performance
            equal in every way. These things are what we do in the U.K.
            to all 250s and carbed 6s that find their way back here.
            Good luck</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Jonmac<br>
            <br>
            <div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Whenever I feel the
              need for exercise, experience has shown me it is better to
              lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL</div>
            <div dir="ltr"><br>
              On 30 Aug 2019, at 15:43, Andrew Uprichard &lt;<a
                href="mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net";
                moz-do-not-send="true">auprichard@uprichard.net</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thanks,
                      Jonmac:?? I don???t have the car yet ??? and in
                      fact am still going back-and-forth about whether
                      to buy it.?? I???ll keep you posted !<br>
                      <br>
                      Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>??</o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                          John Macartney [<a
                            href="mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk";
                            
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk</a>]
                          <br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:50 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Andrew Uprichard<br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> Triumphs; <a
                            href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";
                            moz-do-not-send="true">6pack@autox.team.net</a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Lucas 
PI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>??</o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Can I help? Did the Lucas Service
                    course, thefactory service course and owned a saloon
                    with the pi engine to full U.K. police performance
                    spec. Doubt you???ll find too many in the US with
                    experience of the system. PI cars were never sold in
                    North America in the day, though a very small number
                    have snuck in since then. A word of advice. If
                    you???re tempted to fiddle with the PI system, put
                    everything you???ve learned about carbed cars
                    entirely to one side. The Lucas system is a whole
                    different ball game with very unique rules. That
                    said, it???s a great setup but you need to know what
                    you???re doing before you start:)<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Whenever I feel the need for
                        exercise, experience has shown me it is better
                        to lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON
                        CHURCHILL<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                        On 29 Aug 2019, at 22:20, Andrew Uprichard via
                        6pack &lt;<a href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";
                          moz-do-not-send="true">6pack@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            style="font-family:&quot;Times New
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                            go-to guy in the US for questions on the
                            Lucas PI system?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            Uprichard</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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