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Re: [TR] rope trick thingy

To: "Glenn A. Merrell" <controls@freelanceconsulting.net>, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>, Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>, "Triumph list Team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] rope trick thingy
From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2019 18:03:56 -0400 (EDT)
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Haven't heard it mentioned, so question.  When using the "rope trick," woul=
d it be wise to remove the pedestal for the rocker arms first so's to avoid=
 damaging valves?


Terry




On September 3, 2019 at 6:26 PM "Glenn A. Merrell" <controls@freelanceconsu=
lting.net> wrote:


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>     Stag and TR7 heads are no longer an issue.
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>     =20
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>     There are cylinder head tools available that lift off even the most c=
orroded heads off a Stag or TR7 engine in 30 minutes or less with no damage=
, actually taking more time to install and remove the tool than it takes to=
  lifting the head.  That is the first and last tool to use, all other meth=
ods are rendered obsolete and typically damage something else in the proces=
s.
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>     Use of the tool is free excepting you pay round trip shipping of the =
tool and replace anything you lose or break on the tool.
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>     Cheers!
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>     Glenn Merrell=20
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>     aka StagByTriumph Garage (now on FaceBook)
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>     Remember, =E2=80=9Cthe BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Ston=
e chips in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen =E2=80=A6 with the oc=
casional smell of manure!=E2=80=9D
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>     From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Randall
>     Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:10 PM
>     To: Paul Dorsey; Triumph list Team.net
>     Subject: Re: [TR] rope trick thingy
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>     The =E2=80=9Crope trick=E2=80=9D is for emergencies, when you just ca=
n=E2=80=99t get the head off any other way.  In that case, chances are good=
 that the liners are so stuck they don=E2=80=99t need to be retained.  But =
also, IMO, if it=E2=80=99s that bad, it=E2=80=99s time to pull the liners a=
nyway (in which case they don=E2=80=99t need to be retained either).
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>     I=E2=80=99ve taken apart some pretty sad TR3 motors, and never had to=
 resort to the =E2=80=9Crope trick=E2=80=9D.  Getting the head off a Stag o=
r TR7 can be a real challenge, but the TR3 has never been a problem for me.
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>     - Randall
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>     From: Paul Dorsey mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com
>     Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:38 PM
>     To: Me mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com ; Triumph list Team.net mailto:trium=
phs@autox.team.net
>     Subject: [TR] rope trick thingy
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>     =20
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>     Is the rope trick the thing where you put the rope in the cylinder do=
wn the spark  plug hole and then turn the engine so that the piston breaks =
the head gasket seal?  I thought someone said not to turn over the engine?
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Haven&#39;t heard it mentioned, so quest=
ion.&#160; When using the &#34;rope trick,&#34; would it be wise to remove =
the pedestal for the rocker arms first so&#39;s to avoid damaging valves?</=
p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: h=
elvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Terry</p><p style=3D"=
font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, =
51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, aria=
l, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt=
; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br><=
/p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">On September 3, 2019 at 6:26 PM &#34;Glenn A. Merr=
ell&#34; &#60;controls@freelanceconsulting.net&#62; wrote: <br> <br></p><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Stag and TR7 h=
eads are no longer an issue. </span></p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;"> &#160; </span></p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd=
6e2-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">There are cylinder head tool=
s available that lift off even the most corroded heads off a Stag or TR7 en=
gine in 30 minutes or less with no damage, actually taking more time to ins=
tall and remove the tool than it takes to &#160;lifting the head.&#160; Tha=
t is the first and last tool to use, all other methods are rendered obsolet=
e and typically damage something else in the process. </span></p><p class=
=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Use of the too=
l is free excepting you pay round trip shipping of the tool and replace any=
thing you lose or break on the tool. </span></p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Cheers! </span></p><p class=3D"ox=
-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;"> &#160; </span></p><=
p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">Glenn M=
errell&#160; </span></p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color: #1f497d;">aka StagByTriumph Garage (<em>now on FaceBook</em>) </spa=
n></p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;">=
Remember, &#8220;the BEST trophies are: Miles on the Odometer; Stone chips =
in the paint; and DEAD BUGS on the windscreen &#8230; with the occasional s=
mell of manure!&#8221; </span></p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"color: #1f497d;"> &#160; </span></p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;"> &#160; </span></p><p class=3D"ox-=
389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><a name=3D"_MailEndCompose" class=3D"mce-item-anchor"=
></a><span style=3D"color: #1f497d;"> &#160; </span></p><div><div style=3D"=
border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"=
><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.=
0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style=
=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Triumphs [mail=
to:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Randall<b=
r><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:10 PM<br><strong>To:=
</strong> Paul Dorsey; Triumph list Team.net<br><strong>Subject:</strong> R=
e: [TR] rope trick thingy </span></p></div></div><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-=
MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal">The &#8220;rope t=
rick&#8221; is for emergencies, when you just can&#8217;t get the head off =
any other way.&#160; In that case, chances are good that the liners are so =
stuck they don&#8217;t need to be retained.&#160; But also, IMO, if it&#821=
7;s that bad, it&#8217;s time to pull the liners anyway (in which case they=
 don&#8217;t need to be retained either).</p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoN=
ormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal">I&#8217;ve taken apar=
t some pretty sad TR3 motors, and never had to resort to the &#8220;rope tr=
ick&#8221;. &#160;Getting the head off a Stag or TR7 can be a real challeng=
e, but the TR3 has never been a problem for me.</p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e=
2-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal">- Randall</p><p=
 class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><div style=3D"border: none; bo=
rder-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ox-=
389afdd6e2-MsoNormal"><strong>From: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gma=
il.com">Paul Dorsey</a><br><strong>Sent: </strong>Monday, September 2, 2019=
 9:38 PM<br><strong>To: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:dorpaul1@gmail.com";>Me</=
a>; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>Triumph list Team.net</a><br=
><strong>Subject: </strong>[TR] rope trick thingy</p></div><p class=3D"ox-3=
89afdd6e2-MsoNormal">&#160;</p><p class=3D"ox-389afdd6e2-MsoNormal">Is the =
rope trick the thing where you put the rope in the cylinder down the spark&=
#160; plug hole and then turn the engine so that the piston breaks the head=
 gasket seal?&#160; I thought someone said not to turn over the engine?</p>=
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