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Re: [TR] Experience with Vitesse 5-speed transmission conversion?

To: Bryan Loy <paradisemusicnc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Experience with Vitesse 5-speed transmission conversion?
From: Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 18:46:04 -0500
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Hmmm. 3K rpm at 60 MPH is about what my 4th gear is on my non-OD tranny.    I=
 would have thought that the Miata 5th gear might have been =E2=80=9Cdirect=E2=
=80=9D, like the TR=E2=80=99s 4th. And 6th would be some sort of overdrive.=20=


Without having 20-30% overdrive then there is no great advantage to the Miat=
a unit!

-Tony

Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine

> On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Bryan Loy <paradisemusicnc@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> As far as gear ratios go, I can't say, numbers wise, but I have an '04 MX5=
 with the 6 speed, and it is low.  6th gear at 60mph, the engine is turning 3=
K.   Pretty much 20MPH for every 1K on the tach.=20
> Bryan
>=20
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:27 PM Anthony Rhodes <spamiam@comcast.net> wrote=
:
>> It is indeed pricey.  But it appears to be a complete new transmission an=
d all the required adapter stuff ready to go.  The only way it would be bett=
er as a conversion is if it retained the original space cylinder.=20
>>=20
>> So for a complete new modern (hopefully long life) overdrive transmission=
, the price is not terrible.
>>=20
>> It is likely a better solution than the HVDA because those old Toyota tra=
nsmissions may well be =E2=80=9Cused up=E2=80=9D,not just =E2=80=9Cused=E2=80=
=9D. And they are hard to find. =20
>>=20
>> For me, I found the right Toyota transmission to be as rare as ... as a f=
riend of mine puts it...   as rare as rocking horse manure.   He may not act=
ually have used the word =E2=80=9Cmanure=E2=80=9D.=20
>>=20
>> So I like this Miata option!
>>=20
>> Does anyone know the gear ratios?  The Moss description does not indicate=
 the ratios. =20
>>=20
>> -Tony
>>=20
>> Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine
>>=20
>> > On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:02 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>> >=20
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:54:49 -0600
>> > From: Dean Mericas <dmericas@gmail.com>
>> > To: triumphs@autox.team.net
>> > Subject: [TR] Experience with Vitesse 5-speed transmission conversion?
>> > Message-ID: <3D51629D-3D80-44B6-9EEF-01C3BD216362@gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=3Dutf-8
>> >=20
>> > I see that Moss now carries an a 5-speed transmission conversion that a=
ppears to use Miata internals in a custom case and bell housing. It isn?t ch=
eap, but as an apparent drop in replacement I think the installed cost may b=
e about the same as the Toyota-based HVDA kit.
>> >=20
>> > Does anyone on the list have first hand experience with this particular=
 conversion?
>> >=20
>> > Thanks.=20
>> >=20
>> > Dean Mericas
>> > 1965 TR4
>> > Austin, TX
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hmmm. 3K rpm at 60 MPH is about what my 4th=
 gear is on my non-OD tranny. &nbsp; &nbsp;I would have thought that the Mia=
ta 5th gear might have been =E2=80=9Cdirect=E2=80=9D, like the TR=E2=80=99s 4=
th. And 6th would be some sort of overdrive.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Withou=
t having 20-30% overdrive then there is no great advantage to the Miata unit=
!</div><div><br></div><div>-Tony<br><div><div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent=
 from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite">On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Bryan Loy &lt;paradisemusicnc@gm=
ail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">As far as gear ratios go, I can't say, n=
umbers wise, but I have an '04 MX5 with the 6 speed, and it is low. &nbsp;6t=
h gear at 60mph, the engine is turning 3K. &nbsp; Pretty much 20MPH for ever=
y 1K on the tach.&nbsp;<div>Bryan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:27 PM Anthony=
 Rhodes &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spamiam@comcast.net";>spamiam@comcast.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">It is indeed pricey.&nbsp; But it appears t=
o be a complete new transmission and all the required adapter stuff ready to=
 go.&nbsp; The only way it would be better as a conversion is if it retained=
 the original space cylinder. <br>
<br>
So for a complete new modern (hopefully long life) overdrive transmission, t=
he price is not terrible.<br>
<br>
It is likely a better solution than the HVDA because those old Toyota transm=
issions may well be =E2=80=9Cused up=E2=80=9D,not just =E2=80=9Cused=E2=80=9D=
. And they are hard to find.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
For me, I found the right Toyota transmission to be as rare as ... as a frie=
nd of mine puts it...&nbsp; &nbsp;as rare as rocking horse manure.&nbsp; &nb=
sp;He may not actually have used the word =E2=80=9Cmanure=E2=80=9D. <br>
<br>
So I like this Miata option!<br>
<br>
Does anyone know the gear ratios?&nbsp; The Moss description does not indica=
te the ratios.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
-Tony<br>
<br>
Sent from my 1837 Babbage Analytical Engine<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jan 2, 2020, at 2:02 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-request@autox.te=
am.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-request@autox.team.net</a> wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Message: 1<br>
&gt; Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 13:54:49 -0600<br>
&gt; From: Dean Mericas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dmericas@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">dmericas@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triump=
hs@autox.team.net</a><br>
&gt; Subject: [TR] Experience with Vitesse 5-speed transmission conversion?<=
br>
&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:3D51629D-3D80-44B6-9EEF-01C3BD216362@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">3D51629D-3D80-44B6-9EEF-01C3BD216362@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp; &nbsp; charset=3Dutf-8<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I see that Moss now carries an a 5-speed transmission conversion that a=
ppears to use Miata internals in a custom case and bell housing. It isn?t ch=
eap, but as an apparent drop in replacement I think the installed cost may b=
e about the same as the Toyota-based HVDA kit.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Does anyone on the list have first hand experience with this particular=
 conversion?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Dean Mericas<br>
&gt; 1965 TR4<br>
&gt; Austin, TX<br>
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