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Re: [TR] How did the factory add on factory options

To: John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [TR] How did the factory add on factory options
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 14:12:57 -0500
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John, I've thought about, and laughed, at your memory of that "three door"
Toledo, the right-left Herald, and the wire-disk Spit.  Truly funny.
Knowing how eager S-T were to sell car, I'd be willing to bet at least two
of those were sold on.  Heck, maybe all three.

Sidescreen TRs in the US have all kinds of variations in windscreen
washers.  Some never had their dash blanking panel pierced for where a
switch usually went.  I'd have believed all cars got nozzles mounted to the
scuttle, but I didn't know all cars got washers.

The 1956 09 S-T accessories brochure still shows windscreen washers as an
option, but they note even then they were rapidly becoming an essential.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vncLKFm/1/3100b418/O/i-vncLKFm.jpg

BR,

Don

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:52 PM John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk=
>
wrote:

> Small correction, Don. Screen washers were a legal requirement in most
> world markets and for those countries that didn=E2=80=99t specify them, t=
hey got
> them anyway. A normal line fitted item.
>
> Jonmac
>
> At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:
> Lord Uxbridge:  =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - I=E2=80=99ve lost my leg=E2=80=9D
> Duke of Wellington: =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - so you have!=E2=80=9D
>
>
> On 4 Jun 2020, at 19:24, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here's what part of the Coventry production lines looked like in 1958.
> Maybe this will give some insight into how things were done.  It's clear
> S-T campaigned body colors, and possibly interior colors too.
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Zq7NRxF/0/3dfea902/O/i-Zq7NRxF.jpg
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3c968hL/0/e52b3d42/O/i-3c968hL.jpg
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-n5fdGBR/0/48115ef0/O/i-n5fdGBR.jpg
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9RpSbmS/0/9d49a652/O/i-9RpSbmS.jpg
>
> Jonmac and I were having an email conversation about some of the regional
> customization the other day (around lighting regulation differences acros=
s
> the continent in the day) that might be relevant here, too.  John noted
> that customization could be done in line production, in Sales Conversion,
> off-line before dispatch by train, or by the selling dealer.  Where optio=
ns
> were added relate to how deep they're built into the car.  Adjustable
> steering on a sidescreen car would obviously be done on the line.
> Windscreen washers and mirrors, for example, were usually done by the
> dealer.
>
> Don
> Saint Louis
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:46 PM Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm just wondering how the factory added options to cars.
>> Did the production line have branches off the main line at certain stage=
s
>> and then they would merge back on the main line? Or were the cars lifted
>> off the line with some crane?
>> Sujit
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sujit Roy
>> Cupertino, California
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">John, I&#39;ve thought about, and laughed, at your memory =
of that &quot;three door&quot; Toledo, the right-left Herald, and the wire-=
disk Spit.=C2=A0 Truly funny.=C2=A0 Knowing how eager S-T were to sell car,=
 I&#39;d be willing to bet at least two of those were sold on.=C2=A0 Heck, =
maybe all three.<div><br></div><div>Sidescreen TRs in the US have all kinds=
 of variations in windscreen washers.=C2=A0 Some never had their dash blank=
ing panel pierced for where a switch usually went.=C2=A0 I&#39;d have belie=
ved all cars got nozzles mounted to the scuttle, but I didn&#39;t know all =
cars got washers.</div><div><br></div><div>The 1956 09 S-T accessories broc=
hure still shows windscreen washers as an option, but they note even then t=
hey were rapidly becoming an essential.</div><div><a href=3D"https://photos=
.smugmug.com/photos/i-vncLKFm/1/3100b418/O/i-vncLKFm.jpg">https://photos.sm=
ugmug.com/photos/i-vncLKFm/1/3100b418/O/i-vncLKFm.jpg</a><br></div><div><br=
></div><div>BR,</div><div><br></div><div>Don</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 1:=
52 PM John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk";>Jo=
hn.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Small correction, Don. Screen w=
ashers were a legal requirement in most world markets and for those countri=
es that didn=E2=80=99t specify them, they got them anyway. A normal line fi=
tted item.<div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_-58503190722=
34258843AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:<di=
v>Lord Uxbridge: =C2=A0=E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - I=E2=80=99ve lost my leg=E2=
=80=9D</div><div>Duke of Wellington: =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - so you have!=E2=
=80=9D</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 4 Jun 2020, at 19:=
24, Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Here&#39;s what part of the Coventry=
 production lines looked like in 1958.=C2=A0 Maybe this will give some insi=
ght into how things were done.=C2=A0 It&#39;s clear S-T campaigned body col=
ors, and possibly interior colors too.<div><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmu=
g.com/photos/i-Zq7NRxF/0/3dfea902/O/i-Zq7NRxF.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Zq7NRxF/0/3dfea902/O/i-Zq7NRxF.jpg</a></div><=
div><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3c968hL/0/e52b3d42/O/i-3=
c968hL.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3c968hL/0=
/e52b3d42/O/i-3c968hL.jpg</a></div><div><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.c=
om/photos/i-n5fdGBR/0/48115ef0/O/i-n5fdGBR.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://p=
hotos.smugmug.com/photos/i-n5fdGBR/0/48115ef0/O/i-n5fdGBR.jpg</a></div><div=
><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9RpSbmS/0/9d49a652/O/i-9RpS=
bmS.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9RpSbmS/0/9d=
49a652/O/i-9RpSbmS.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>Jonmac and I were havin=
g=C2=A0an email conversation about some of the regional customization the o=
ther day (around lighting regulation differences across the continent in th=
e day) that might be relevant here,=C2=A0too.=C2=A0 John noted that customi=
zation could be done in line production, in Sales Conversion, off-line befo=
re dispatch by train, or by the selling dealer.=C2=A0 Where options were ad=
ded relate to how deep they&#39;re built into the car.=C2=A0 Adjustable ste=
ering on a sidescreen car would obviously be done on the line.=C2=A0 Windsc=
reen washers and mirrors, for example, were usually done by the dealer.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Don</div><div>Saint Louis<br><div><br></div></div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:46 PM Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">triumphstag@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m ju=
st=C2=A0wondering=C2=A0how the factory added options to cars.<div>Did the p=
roduction=C2=A0line have branches off the main line at certain stages and t=
hen they would merge back on the main line? Or were the cars lifted off the=
 line with some crane?</div><div>Sujit</div><div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br=
></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino=
, California</div><div><br><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com=
/" target=3D"_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><br><br></di=
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