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Re: [TR] Commission Plate Rivets

To: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>, Brian Thomas <thomasb@queensu.ca>
Subject: Re: [TR] Commission Plate Rivets
From: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 09:08:53 -0700 (PDT)
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This is excellent information and a detail most would overlook.  I reduced the 
cap diameter of an otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop rivet then glued a 
short length of the shaft in place to smoothly fill the hole.  It's very 
difficult to tell the difference from the factory rivet.  I thought this detail 
was important and I kept the original commission plate although it shows it's 
age. 
Dave H.  

>     On 06/20/2020 8:47 AM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Yes, I think I was able to find the correct rivets for both early cars (a 
> drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end rivet).  If not 
> exact, they're *very* close.  I probably have many dozens of them -- 
> certainly several lifetime's supply -- because I had to order a bunch to get 
> a few.
> 
>     Here's are details front and back of the early drive rivet.
>     https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw.jpg
>     https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c84b7900/O/i-LdxQ2BM.jpg
> 
>     Send me a note off-list, Brian, and we'll see what we can do.
> 
>     BR,
> 
>     Don
>     Saint Louis Missouri
>     1962 TR3B TSF202L
> 
> 
>     On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Thomas < thomasb@queensu.ca 
> mailto:thomasb@queensu.ca > wrote:
> 
>         > > Hi,
> > 
> >         I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission 
> > plate on my TR2. 
> > 
> >         Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet 
> > is installed.  The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in this 
> > opening. 
> > 
> >         Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet? 
> > 
> >         FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch 
> > x 1/4 inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.  As 554407 
> > is also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A 
> > windshield (which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are also 
> > hollow ...
> > 
> >         Cheers,
> > 
> >         Brian
> >         _____________________________________________________
> >         Brian Thomas                             E-Mail:  
> > Brian.Thomas@QueensU.Ca
> >         92 Wyona Lane                          Phone:  613-385-1947
> >         Wolfe Island,  Ontario                  Toys:  54 TR2,  56 TR3,  67 
> > TR4A, 
> >         Canada  K0H 2Y0                                       01 XKR,  75 
> > John Deere 920
> > 
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   <span id="_mce_caret"><span style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 
12pt;">This is excellent information and a detail most would overlook.&nbsp; I 
reduced the cap diameter of an otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop rivet 
then glued a short length of the shaft in place to smoothly fill the 
hole.&nbsp; It's very difficult to tell the difference from the factory 
rivet.&nbsp; I thought this detail was important and I kept the original 
commission plate although it shows it's age.&nbsp;</span></span>
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    On 06/20/2020 8:47 AM Don Hiscock &lt;don.hiscock@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
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    Yes, I think&nbsp;I was able to find the correct rivets for both early cars 
(a drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end rivet).&nbsp; If 
not exact, they're *very* close.&nbsp; I probably have many dozens of them -- 
certainly several lifetime's supply -- because I had to order a bunch to get a 
few.
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     Here's are details front&nbsp;and back of the early drive rivet.
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      Send me a note off-list, Brian, and we'll see what we can do.
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      BR,
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      Don
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      Saint Louis Missouri
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      1962 TR3B TSF202L
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     On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Thomas &lt;
     <a href="mailto:thomasb@queensu.ca";>thomasb@queensu.ca</a>&gt; wrote:
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     Hi,
     <br>
     <br>I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission 
plate on my TR2.&nbsp; 
     <br>
     <br>Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet is 
installed.&nbsp; The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in this 
opening.&nbsp; 
     <br>
     <br>Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet?&nbsp; 
     <br>
     <br>FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x 
1/4 inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.&nbsp; As 554407 is 
also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A windshield 
(which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are also hollow ...
     <br>
     <br>Cheers,
     <br>
     <br>Brian
     <br>_____________________________________________________
     <br>Brian 
Thomas&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; E-Mail: &nbsp;Brian.Thomas@QueensU.Ca
     <br>92 Wyona 
Lane&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 Phone:&nbsp; 613-385-1947
     <br>Wolfe Island,&nbsp; 
Ontario&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Toys:&nbsp; 54 TR2,&nbsp; 56 
TR3,&nbsp; 67 TR4A,&nbsp; 
     <br>Canada&nbsp; K0H 
2Y0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01 XKR,&nbsp; 75 
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