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I wish Randall a quick recovery as much as it can be.=C2=A0 I am also sadd=
ened to hear about his father.=C2=A0 John Young was a fine gentleman and I =
had the pleasure of meeting him on several occasions.=C2=A0 I guess that's =
the penalty of a long life, you loose so many good friends.
Thanks for the update.
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Dave=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: andrew uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>
To: 'Bill Brewer' <billbrewer59@yahoo.com>; 'Triumphs List' <triumphs@autox=
.team.net>
Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2020 7:06 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Perplexing A-Type OD Problem
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.yiv6100358220WordSection1 {}-->I recently went through FOUR aftermarket vo=
ltage regulators on a TR4.=C2=A0 They came from different vendors and laste=
d anywhere from a few minutes to a few weeks.=C2=A0 I sourced an original f=
rom Marv Gruber and it has worked fine ever since.=C2=A0 What are the chanc=
es you could get your hands on a nice original solenoid? =C2=A0Randall Youn=
g is in a rehab hospital (Kindred hospital in Pasadena) following a stroke.=
=C2=A0 I have spoken to him several times and encouraged him to comply with=
the physical therapy as there were so many TRs waiting for his advice!=C2=
=A0 It has been a bad year for him =E2=80=93 his father died just a few mon=
ths ago. =C2=A0Andrew UprichardJackson, michigan =C2=A0From: Triumphs <triu=
mphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bill Brewer
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 10:00 PM
To: Triumphs List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] Perplexing A-Type OD Problem =C2=A0Hi Listers,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 I was on a trip driving my TR3 that has a TR4 overdrive trans in =
it. The OD had been working fine and then suddenly nothing would happen whe=
n I threw the switch. I checked the relay with a test lamp and the C2 outpu=
t terminal (yellow/purple wire) lights up fine but the solenoid wouldn=E2=
=80=99t actuate. I tested the solenoid (Moss =E2=80=93 aftermarket) on my w=
orkbench and it seems to pull in fine. It probably only has 5,000 miles on =
it and looks almost new. I put it back in the car and it doesn=E2=80=99t ac=
tuate. I ran a new wire straight from the C2 terminal on the relay to the i=
nstalled solenoid and it still doesn=E2=80=99t actuate, although I can move=
the actuation lever by hand. Evidently the solenoid is bad again. It seems=
like I go through OD solenoids fairly regularly. Randall (does anyone know=
how he is doing???) had me install a small =E2=80=9Cbounceback resistor=E2=
=80=9D on the from the C2 output terminal on the relay to ground to elimina=
te bounceback voltage spikes. Any idea why I would be going through solenoi=
ds so regularly? I seem to change them out about every 10,000 miles.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Could it be a grounding issue for the solenoid? It seems=
like there would be plenty of electrical continuity from the transmission =
to the engine and chassis, so that shouldn=E2=80=99t be it.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 Thanks in advance, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -Bill Brewer** =
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<div> <font size=3D"3">I wish Randall a quick recovery as much as it can be=
. I am also saddened to hear about his father. John Young was a=
fine gentleman and I had the pleasure of meeting him on several occasions.=
I guess that's the penalty of a long life, you loose so many good fr=
iends.</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"3">Thanks for the update.</font><br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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From: andrew uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net><br>
To: 'Bill Brewer' <billbrewer59@yahoo.com>; 'Triumphs List' <trium=
phs@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2020 7:06 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Perplexing A-Type OD Problem<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Time=
s New Roman", serif;color:#1F497D;">I recently went through FOUR after=
market voltage regulators on a TR4. They came from different vendors =
and lasted anywhere from a few minutes to a few weeks. I sourced an o=
riginal from Marv Gruber and it has worked fine ever since. What are =
the chances you could get your hands on a nice original solenoid?</span></d=
iv>
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s New Roman", serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Time=
s New Roman", serif;color:#1F497D;">Randall Young is in a rehab hospit=
al (Kindred hospital in Pasadena) following a stroke. I have spoken t=
o him several times and encouraged him to comply with the physical therapy =
as there were so many TRs waiting for his advice! It has been a bad y=
ear for him =E2=80=93 his father died just a few months ago.</span></div>
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s New Roman", serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></div>
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s New Roman", serif;color:#1F497D;">Andrew Uprichard</span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Time=
s New Roman", serif;color:#1F497D;">Jackson, michigan</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs <triumphs-bo=
unces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Brewer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 26, 2020 10:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Triumphs List <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] Perplexing A-Type OD Problem</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal">Hi Listers,</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal"> I was on a t=
rip driving my TR3 that has a TR4 overdrive trans in it. The OD had been wo=
rking fine and then suddenly nothing would happen when I threw the switch. =
I checked the relay with a test lamp and the C2 output terminal (yellow/pur=
ple wire) lights up fine but the solenoid wouldn=E2=80=99t actuate. I teste=
d the solenoid (Moss =E2=80=93 aftermarket) on my workbench and it seems to=
pull in fine. It probably only has 5,000 miles on it and looks almost new.=
I put it back in the car and it doesn=E2=80=99t actuate. I ran a new wire =
straight from the C2 terminal on the relay to the installed solenoid and it=
still doesn=E2=80=99t actuate, although I can move the actuation lever by =
hand. Evidently the solenoid is bad again. It seems like I go through OD so=
lenoids fairly regularly. Randall (does anyone know how he is doing???) had=
me install a small =E2=80=9Cbounceback resistor=E2=80=9D on the from the C=
2 output terminal on the relay to ground to eliminate bounceback voltage sp=
ikes. Any idea why I would be going through solenoids so regularly? I seem =
to change them out about every 10,000 miles.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal"> Could it be =
a grounding issue for the solenoid? It seems like there would be plenty of =
electrical continuity from the transmission to the engine and chassis, so t=
hat shouldn=E2=80=99t be it.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal"> Thanks in ad=
vance,</div>
<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv6100358220MsoNormal"> -Bill Brewer=
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