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Re: [TR] New Head Gasket Question

To: <jpaynepbr@cox.net>, "'bill beecher'" <notakitcar@yahoo.com>, "'Jerry Van Vlack'" <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] New Head Gasket Question
From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:23:11 -0400
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Briggs & Stratton used to suggest using two head gaskets when equipping one of 
their older cast-iron engines for operation on kerosene. Would that work??

Alex Thomson

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 
jpaynepbr@cox.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 11:49 AM
To: 'bill beecher'; 'Jerry Van Vlack'
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] New Head Gasket Question

I'm going to be installing a Judson Supercharger on my TR3 this fall.  I have 
acquired the rebuilt supercharger, manifold, carb and a specially built dizzy.

I'll need some sort of thicker head gasket to lower the compression from its 
current 9.3/1 to a more suitable 8.7 (ish)/1   Anybody have any idea where to 
get it and what to use for the thicker head gasket?


-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of bill beecher
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:45 PM
To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Copper head gasket: Which side up?

My bad, that part number is for a lower end set from BPNW. 
Bill

#dontkillgrandma

On Jul 21, 2020, at 6:49 PM, bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thank you all, smooth side up it is.  
Gasket and 87mm pistons and liners all came from TRF, Lucas p/n EC510L.   Head 
and deck are stock. 

Tony, yes the edge on the water holes are rolled, so Iâ??ll leave them alone. 

Cheers,
Bill B


#dontkillgrandma

On Jul 21, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Adding to what Tony says, the gasket should NOT protrude into the bore.

Questions:
What is the bore? 86, 87 or 89 mm?
Where did the gasket come from and what brand is it? What is it's Part Number?
How much is milled off the head?

I've been through this and the only thing working for me is to find an original 
AE 330 copper gasket. NOT the Repro 330 gasket. The originals are getting hard 
to find.

And be certain to re-torque the head.

With .070 milled off the head and 87mm liners and an original AE 330 HG I'm 
able to keep the gasket out of the combustion chamber.

Your results may differ.

JVV

-----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:05 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Copper head gasket: Which side up?

Smooth side goes up.

It's better if the gasket doesn't protrude, hard to do if the head has been 
milled at all.

I've not messed with the water holes, no firm answer on that one.  If the edge 
of those is rolled over I'd leave alone, if it exposes the composite part of 
the gasket it's OK to open up a bit.

> On 7/21/2020 4:57 PM, bill beecher wrote:
> Reassembling the TR3 motor for the old Morgan and I am dry fitting the head 
> gasket. Two questions:
> 1. Which side goes up, smooth or the rolled over side?
> 2. On a couple cylinders the gasket protrudes into the bore by about 1mm, is 
> this OK?
> 3. At the front the holes in the gasket do not match exactly with the 
> water passage, is it OK to open those up just a bit?  (The back aligns 
> perfectly)
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill B
> TS74313E
> 
> #dontkillgrandma
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