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Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister for Triumphs similar to that, used on

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Subject: Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister for Triumphs similar to that, used on a TR6 (Sujit Roy)
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:46:43 +0000 (UTC)
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 OK.=C2=A0 This makes more sense.=C2=A0 Thanks for the clarification.=C2=A0=
 My 71 TR6 had the two-port canister but I decided to fit an Anti-Run-On va=
lve so I converted to later style (from a 73, I think) carbs, canister and =
hoses.=C2=A0 I had to fit up my own electrics to run the valve at shut-off =
but it works well.
I would think that aluminium (aluminum) heads would make the Anti-Run-On va=
lve unnecessary.=C2=A0 The TR8 was not fitted with this system and my car n=
ever ever ever ever dieseled on shut-down.=C2=A0 Since aluminum is a much b=
etter conductor of heat these heads don't develop hot spots to the degree t=
hat cast iron does.
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Dave=20

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From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Cc: HDRider570@att.net <HDRider570@att.net>; triumphs@autox.team.net <trium=
phs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2020 10:49 am
Subject: Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister for Triumphs similar to that, us=
ed on a TR6 (Sujit Roy)

I think but am not sure that the '71 Stag originally came with a canister w=
ith 2 ports. But unfortunately, know one has confirmed. In some of the manu=
als and parts books, there are illustrations of the Stag having 2 2-port ca=
nisters.Stag no1 has a carburetor=C2=A0swap to a later Mk2 set. The Mk2 2 S=
tag has a 3-port canister. The ports on this type=C2=A0are vertical. I was =
able to find=C2=A0a 3 port canister from a junkyard. It came out of an MGB.=
 THis canister didn't have a restrictor.Sujit
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 6:03 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:

 Interesting.=C2=A0 The early TR6 (without Anti-Run-On valve) didn't have t=
his restrictor.=C2=A0 Nor did it have the third port for the hoses that go =
to the top of the float chambers.=C2=A0 These were added to support the Ant=
i-Run-On valve.=C2=A0 But if the Stag doesn't have the Anti-Run-On valve wh=
y did they use this canister?=C2=A0 I guess they used what was on the shelf=
 at the time which is the part used on the TR6 at the time.
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Dave=20

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From: Sujit Roy <triumphstag@gmail.com>
To: Q <HDRider570@att.net>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2020 9:52 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister for Triumphs similar to that, us=
ed on a TR6 (Sujit Roy)

Thanks Edward. Yes the middle one to the valve cover. Small piece of plasti=
c with a small hole in it.=C2=A0
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 11:44 AM Q <HDRider570@att.net> wrote:

There is a flow reducer bushing placed into one of the canister ports=20
that is often missing.?? I don't remember which port but it is shown of=20
the parts diagram.


Edward Hamer

Petaluma CA

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<div> <font size="3">OK.&nbsp; This makes more sense.&nbsp; Thanks for the 
clarification.&nbsp; My 71 TR6 had the two-port canister but I decided to fit 
an Anti-Run-On valve so I converted to later style (from a 73, I think) carbs, 
canister and hoses.&nbsp; I had to fit up my own electrics to run the valve at 
shut-off but it works well.</font></div>

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<div><font size="3">I would think that aluminium (aluminum) heads would make 
the </font><font size="3">Anti-Run-On valve unnecessary.&nbsp; The TR8 was not 
fitted with this system and my car never ever ever ever dieseled on 
shut-down.&nbsp; Since aluminum is a much better conductor of heat these heads 
don't develop hot spots to the degree that cast iron does.<br>
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From: Sujit Roy &lt;triumphstag@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1massey@cs.com&gt;<br>
Cc: HDRider570@att.net &lt;HDRider570@att.net&gt;; triumphs@autox.team.net 
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Subject: Re: [TR] Hoses to carbon canister for Triumphs similar to that, used 
on a TR6 (Sujit Roy)<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think but am not sure that the '71 Stag originally came with a 
canister with 2 ports. But unfortunately, know one has confirmed. In some of 
the manuals and parts books, there are illustrations of the Stag having 2 
2-port canisters.
<div>Stag no1 has a carburetor&nbsp;swap to a later Mk2 set. The Mk2 2 Stag has 
a 3-port canister. The ports on this type&nbsp;are vertical. I was able to 
find&nbsp;a 3 port canister from a junkyard. It came out of an MGB. THis 
canister didn't have a restrictor.</div>

<div>Sujit</div>
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<div class="yiv7772222361gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 6:03 AM 
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<div> <font size="3">Interesting.&nbsp; The early TR6 (without Anti-Run-On 
valve) didn't have this restrictor.&nbsp; Nor did it have the third port for 
the hoses that go to the top of the float chambers.&nbsp; These were added to 
support the </font><font size="3">Anti-Run-On valve.&nbsp; But if the Stag 
doesn't have the </font><font size="3"><font size="3">Anti-Run-On valve why did 
they use this canister?&nbsp; I guess they used what was on the shelf at the 
time which is the part used on the TR6 at the time.<br clear="none">
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<div>Thanks Edward. Yes the middle one to the valve cover. Small piece of 
plastic with a small hole in it.&nbsp;</div>

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that is often missing.?? I don't remember which port but it is shown of <br 
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