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What many people fail to realise is that motor show cars are very different i=
n many ways to the normal production version. For a start, the paint finish r=
eceived detailed attention and were often resprayed several times to give th=
e paint a =E2=80=98deeper=E2=80=99 appearance. Engine blocks were a shiny bl=
ack, as were hoses. Body and door shut lines underwent considerable work and=
door shuts themselves were silky smooth in operation and quiet to operate. T=
his was always difficult to achieve on the Herald, GT6 and Spitfire as closi=
ng most doors on those models mostly sounded like putting the lid on an empt=
y trash can. Every night after show closure, the carpets, seats and door car=
ds in all cars were exchanged for new ones and any faults or problems report=
ed to the Stand Manager during the day were rectified. Knobs, switches, lens=
es that had been stolen or damaged through clumsy removal were also replaced=
. Leaking or non functional hydraulics were replaced as well and there=E2=80=
=99s a moral here. NEVER buy a car that has done a stint as a display vehicl=
e at a ten day motor show. It will have gone through hell in that time and E=
ngineering always studied reports of how the cars had held up during the sho=
w. Theft, attempted or actual was by no means unknown and one day a man wear=
ing a pair of white overalls was actually caught trying to remove a Herald d=
ifferential!!! It happened on a Saturday when you could hardly move on the s=
tand because of the crowds. Car =E2=80=98ride heights=E2=80=99 were often ra=
ised a little to allow for the daily punishment of people of various weights=
collapsing into cars on a crowded stand. This did little to give seats a ge=
ntle life! Mostly, this was achieved by temporarily fitting all cars with he=
avy duty tropical suspension for the show duration. Doing this meant there w=
as nothing like the amount of =E2=80=9Cgive=E2=80=9D found in a car that was=
conventionally sprung.
Was the motor show experience enjoyable? If you like standing on your feet f=
rom 09.00 to 22.00 without somewhere to sit down, for ten days solid in an u=
nhealthy atmosphere that gave everyone flu and talking to people who mostly b=
ored you witless and were often less than polite, eating the same outside ca=
tered lunch and no chance of a quick beer, I suppose it might have been. The=
truth was, it wasn=E2=80=99t. We all had to wear dark, tailored three piece=
suits (bought at our cost), starched cotton shirts with turned back cuffs a=
nd a detachable stiff shirt collar and sober tie. Shoes had to be polished l=
ike a guardsmans boots, clean finger nails, immaculately clean and parted ha=
ir and heaven help you after a day attired like that if the Stand Manager de=
tected even a tiny whiff of halitosis or sweat. Yes, I will admit we, Standa=
rd Triumph=E2=80=99s public face, looked good and perhaps we had a little vi=
rtuous pride in ourselves - but to this day, I=E2=80=99ve yet to meet any ca=
r company employee or salesman who knew as much about his/her product AND th=
e same level of detail of every other make and model of car that competed wi=
th us. To this day and well over fifty years later, I=E2=80=99m still amazed=
how much I can still recall.
Jonmac
Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intenti=
ons.
> On 8 Mar 2021, at 19:07, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> I don't believe the suspension was raised. Might appear taller as TR5 tir=
es were skinnier 165, vs. 250 on wider 185/70, or just new springs riding a l=
ittle high.
>=20
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
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>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021, 12:29 PM John Linney <john@linneyweb.com> wrote:
>> Lovely car. Did they raise the ride height from the TR4 / 4A? It looks a l=
ittle high.
>>=20
>>> On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Friends in NL have reported that a superbly-restored TR5, the original L=
HD car from the 1967 Earls Court Motor Show premiere, has been sold to the U=
SA and is now in the midwest.
>>>=20
>>> Anybody know the car? It's said to be a pretty special TR, and I'd prob=
ably agree. My first car in life was a TR250, unrestorable given my budget,=
skills, and marque support at the time. But today -- I wish I still had it=
!
>>>=20
>>> Here=E2=80=99s the sales ad:
>>> https://www.jbclassiccars.com/?portfolio=3Dtriumph-tr5
>>>=20
>>> Note the comments about the car's original Swiss-specifications and the s=
tuff around engines. Jonmac, this makes us smile to think about your effort=
s in this area back in the day.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">What many people fail to realise is that mo=
tor show cars are very different in many ways to the normal production versi=
on. For a start, the paint finish received detailed attention and were often=
resprayed several times to give the paint a =E2=80=98deeper=E2=80=99 appear=
ance. Engine blocks were a shiny black, as were hoses. Body and door shut li=
nes underwent considerable work and door shuts themselves were silky smooth i=
n operation and quiet to operate. This was always difficult to achieve on th=
e Herald, GT6 and Spitfire as closing most doors on those models mostly soun=
ded like putting the lid on an empty trash can. Every night after show closu=
re, the carpets, seats and door cards in all cars were exchanged for new one=
s and any faults or problems reported to the Stand Manager during the day we=
re rectified. Knobs, switches, lenses that had been stolen or damaged throug=
h clumsy removal were also replaced. Leaking or non functional hydraulics we=
re replaced as well and there=E2=80=99s a moral here. NEVER buy a car that h=
as done a stint as a display vehicle at a ten day motor show. It will have g=
one through hell in that time and Engineering always studied reports of how t=
he cars had held up during the show. Theft, attempted or actual was by no me=
ans unknown and one day a man wearing a pair of white overalls was actually c=
aught trying to remove a Herald differential!!! It happened on a Saturday wh=
en you could hardly move on the stand because of the crowds. Car =E2=80=98ri=
de heights=E2=80=99 were often raised a little to allow for the daily punish=
ment of people of various weights collapsing into cars on a crowded stand. T=
his did little to give seats a gentle life! Mostly, this was achieved by tem=
porarily fitting all cars with heavy duty tropical suspension for the show d=
uration. Doing this meant there was nothing like the amount of =E2=80=9Cgive=
=E2=80=9D found in a car that was conventionally sprung.<div><br></div><div>=
Was the motor show experience enjoyable? If you like standing on your feet f=
rom 09.00 to 22.00 without somewhere to sit down, for ten days solid in an u=
nhealthy atmosphere that gave everyone flu and talking to people who mostly b=
ored you witless and were often less than polite, eating the same outside ca=
tered lunch and no chance of a quick beer, I suppose it might have been. The=
truth was, it wasn=E2=80=99t. We all had to wear dark, tailored three piece=
suits (bought at our cost), starched cotton shirts with turned back cuffs a=
nd a detachable stiff shirt collar and sober tie. Shoes had to be polished l=
ike a guardsmans boots, clean finger nails, immaculately clean and parted ha=
ir and heaven help you after a day attired like that if the Stand Manager de=
tected even a tiny whiff of halitosis or sweat. Yes, I will admit we, Standa=
rd Triumph=E2=80=99s public face, looked good and perhaps we had a little vi=
rtuous pride in ourselves - but to this day, I=E2=80=99ve yet to meet any ca=
r company employee or salesman who knew as much about his/her product AND th=
e same level of detail of every other make and model of car that competed wi=
th us. To this day and well over fifty years later, I=E2=80=99m still amazed=
how much I can still recall.</div><div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div id=
=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who en=
tered Parliament with honest intentions.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 8 Mar 2=
021, at 19:07, Greg Lemon <<a href=3D"mailto:grglmn@gmail.com";>grglmn@gma=
il.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div dir=3D"auto">I don't believe the suspension was raised. Might a=
ppear taller as TR5 tires were skinnier 165, vs. 250 on wider 185/70, or jus=
t new springs riding a little high.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 8, 2021, 12:29 P=
M John Linney <<a href=3D"mailto:john@linneyweb.com";>john@linneyweb.com</=
a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap=
:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Lovely car. Did they raise the rid=
e height from the TR4 / 4A? It looks a little high.<br><div><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 8, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Don Hiscock <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:don.hiscock@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">don.hiscock@=
gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Friends in NL have reported tha=
t a superbly-restored TR5, the original LHD car from the 1967 Earls Court Mo=
tor Show premiere, has been sold to the USA and is now in the midwest.</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_attr">An=
ybody know the car? It's said to be a pretty special TR, and I'd proba=
bly agree. My first car in life was a TR250, unrestorable given my bud=
get, skills, and marque support at the time. But today -- I wish I sti=
ll had it!</div><br>Here=E2=80=99s the sales ad:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.jbclassiccars.com/?portfolio=3Dtriumph-tr5"; rel=3D"no=
referrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.jbclassiccars.com/?portfo=
lio=3Dtriumph-tr5</a><br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Note t=
he comments about the car's original Swiss-specifications and the stuff arou=
nd engines. Jonmac, this makes us smile to think about your efforts in=
this area back in the day.</div></div>
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