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Re: [TR] New TR3A owner

To: "auprichard@uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net>, "trguy75@gmail.com" <trguy75@gmail.com>, "greg@gelhar.com" <greg@gelhar.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 12:36:58 +0000 (UTC)
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 The one time I had to tow the car home was because the DPO installed the f=
uel level sender without a gasket but used RTV instead.=C2=A0 RTV is NOT ga=
soline tolerant.=C2=A0 I globule that exuded inside the take swelled up and=
 dropped off and plugged the fuel line.=C2=A0 This convenient short cut by =
the DPO cost me several hours and quite a few dollars resulting in pulling =
the tank and having it cleaned a lined.
The only other running issue I had was a loose rivet on the coil terminal.
The usual diagnostic procedures are in order.=C2=A0 1) verify spark.=C2=A0 =
2) verify fuel.=C2=A0 Note that 12.2 volts is a bit low and 11.4 is a bit l=
ow but it should be sufficient to run the engine.=C2=A0 What voltage do you=
 measure whilst cranking?=C2=A0 If it stays up above 8 - 9 volts you'll be =
fine.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: auprichard@uprichard.net
To: 'James Henningsen' <trguy75@gmail.com>; 'Greg Gelhar' <greg@gelhar.com>
Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner

The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife and we were about=
 2 miles from home.=C2=A0 As we trudged our way home I explained that this =
was part of the fun of owning a TR.=C2=A0 I'm not sure she was convinced...=
....

Hopefully your neighbor=C2=A0 isn't too upset.

Really looking forward to being another of your neighbors next winter!

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James Henning=
sen
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:51 PM
To: Greg Gelhar <greg@gelhar.com>
Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner

Yes.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m going to pull a spark plug and test for spark agains=
t the block tomorrow.=C2=A0 I know enough to get me in trouble which is why=
 I do appreciate this list=C2=A0 Jim=20

> On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Greg Gelhar <greg@gelhar.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFWhen you sprayed fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slides=
 to=20
> open the fuel/ air passages?
>=20
> Greg G
> Osseo, MN
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim=20
> Henningsen
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:20 PM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] New TR3A owner
>=20
> List:
> I successfully convinced my neighbor to buy a new to him 1958 TR3A.=C2=A0=
=20
> Great to have a new first time TR owner, especially here in Ocala, FL.=C2=
=A0=20
> Car arrived today and of course it crapped out on him after 10 miles.=20
> Luckily right in front of his house.=C2=A0 We got the car back into his=
=20
> garage before the rain came.=C2=A0 Car cranks over fine just won't run.=
=C2=A0 It=20
> literally just died on him at a stop sign after the ten mile drive.=C2=A0=
=20
> 12.2 volts at the battery, but
> 11.4 on the coil with ignition on.=C2=A0 Positive ground car.=C2=A0 Is 11=
.4=20
> normal at the coil to start or is it losing voltage from ignition switch =
to coil.
> White wires from ignition switch look nice and tight.=C2=A0 With ignition=
=20
> switch on,=C2=A0 it also has 11.4 volts at white wires on second fuse on =
the fuse box.
>=20
> Just wanted to confirm 11.4 seems ok to start this puppy before I dig=20
> into points, condenser, rotor, cap and wires.=C2=A0 I don't think it is=
=20
> fuel as I sprayed starter fluid in the carbs and still nothing.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Jim "I need spark" Henningsen
> Ocala FL
>=20
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<div> <font size=3D"3">The one time I had to tow the car home was because t=
he DPO installed the fuel level sender without a gasket but used RTV instea=
d.&nbsp; RTV is NOT gasoline tolerant.&nbsp; I globule that exuded inside t=
he take swelled up and dropped off and plugged the fuel line.&nbsp; This co=
nvenient short cut by the DPO cost me several hours and quite a few dollars=
 resulting in pulling the tank and having it cleaned a lined.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">The only other running issue I had was a loose rivet =
on the coil terminal.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">The usual diagnostic procedures are in order.&nbsp; 1=
) verify spark.&nbsp; 2) verify fuel.&nbsp; Note that 12.2 volts is a bit l=
ow and 11.4 is a bit low but it should be sufficient to run the engine.&nbs=
p; What voltage do you measure whilst cranking?&nbsp; If it stays up above =
8 - 9 volts you'll be fine.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: auprichard@uprichard.net<br>
To: 'James Henningsen' &lt;trguy75@gmail.com&gt;; 'Greg Gelhar' &lt;greg@ge=
lhar.com&gt;<br>
Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 7:07 am<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR3A owner<br>
<br>

<div dir=3D"ltr">The first time our first TR3 died, I was out with my wife =
and we were about 2 miles from home.&nbsp; As we trudged our way home I exp=
lained that this was part of the fun of owning a TR.&nbsp; I'm not sure she=
 was convinced.......<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Hopefully your n=
eighbor&nbsp; isn't too upset.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Really =
looking forward to being another of your neighbors next winter!<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none">Andrew Uprichard<br clear=3D"none">Jackson, Michi=
gan<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-----Original Message-----<br clea=
r=3D"none">From: Triumphs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs-=
bounces@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>tri=
umphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of James Henningsen<br clear=
=3D"none">Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 7:51 PM<br clear=3D"none">To: Greg=
 Gelhar &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:greg@gelhar.com"; href=3D"ma=
ilto:greg@gelhar.com">greg@gelhar.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: <a shap=
e=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:Triump=
hs@autox.team.net">Triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">Subject: R=
e: [TR] New TR3A owner<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Yes.&nbsp; I=E2=
=80=99m going to pull a spark plug and test for spark against the block tom=
orrow.&nbsp; I know enough to get me in trouble which is why I do appreciat=
e this list&nbsp;  Jim <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Apr 15=
, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Greg Gelhar &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:gre=
g@gelhar.com" href=3D"mailto:greg@gelhar.com";>greg@gelhar.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; =EF=BB=BFWhen you sprayed =
fluid into the carbs, had you lifted the slides to <br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
open the fuel/ air passages?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 Greg G<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Osseo, MN<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">&gt; From: Triu=
mphs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t" href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Jim <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Henningsen<br clea=
r=3D"none">&gt; Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 6:20 PM<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; To: <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; href=3D=
"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"no=
ne">&gt; Subject: [TR] New TR3A owner<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; List:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I successfully convinced my neighbor=
 to buy a new to him 1958 TR3A.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Great to have=
 a new first time TR owner, especially here in Ocala, FL.&nbsp; <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; Car arrived today and of course it crapped out on him after =
10 miles. <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Luckily right in front of his house.&nbsp=
; We got the car back into his <br clear=3D"none">&gt; garage before the ra=
in came.&nbsp; Car cranks over fine just won't run.&nbsp; It <br clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; literally just died on him at a stop sign after the ten mile driv=
e.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; 12.2 volts at the battery, but<br clear=3D=
"none">&gt; 11.4 on the coil with ignition on.&nbsp; Positive ground car.&n=
bsp; Is 11.4 <br clear=3D"none">&gt; normal at the coil to start or is it l=
osing voltage from ignition switch to coil.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; White wi=
res from ignition switch look nice and tight.&nbsp; With ignition <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; switch on,&nbsp; it also has 11.4 volts at white wires on se=
cond fuse on the fuse box.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; J=
ust wanted to confirm 11.4 seems ok to start this puppy before I dig <br cl=
ear=3D"none">&gt; into points, condenser, rotor, cap and wires.&nbsp; I don=
't think it is <br clear=3D"none">&gt; fuel as I sprayed starter fluid in t=
he carbs and still nothing.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
Thanks,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Jim "I need spark" Henningsen<br clear=3D"no=
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