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Re: [TR] TR3A rear main seal w/ engine in

To: jerry van vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear main seal w/ engine in
From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 12:48:23 -0500
Cc: Art McEwen <artwmcewen@gmail.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
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I would agree with Jerry, can be done, more work, awkward working position. =
 I just did one of these last year with good results but the motor was out. =
  I would recommend Kas K=E2=80=99s book if only for the chapter that covers=
 this seal. =20
Bill

=E2=80=9CLast night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away=E2=80=9D.... Mearns

On Nov 3, 2021, at 12:36 PM, jerry van vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com> wrote:

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Art,
I suppose you could but it wouldn=E2=80=99t be easy and the results might di=
sappoint. In that area in addition to the crank seal you must also carefully=
 seal the rear bearing cap to block cavity. I have found that cavity is as m=
uch if not more of a leak path than the crank. The scroll type seal used on o=
ur cars is really quite good if set up properly by the work shop manual. But=
 in my experience the cap to block seal cavity gets overlooked and I=E2=80=99=
ve seen significant leakage from a poor job with that area. Might be hard do=
ing that from below. Many an engine rebuild has disappointed the owner becau=
se the cap to block is actually leaking but the crank seal gets the blame.
=20
Just my 2 cents worth.
=20
JVV
=20
=20
=20
Sent from Mail for Windows
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From: Art McEwen
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 1:03 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] TR3A rear main seal w/ engine in
=20
Can a vitron seal be installed while the engine is in place if the gearbox i=
s out?
=20
When I put the car up for winter storage I pulled the gearbox for a rebuild b=
ut I quickly realized most of the oil leakage was from the rear main crank s=
eal.  However the winter storage area is gravel beside the garage without ro=
om to get an engine lift to the front (or maneuver it well on gravel).  Alte=
rnatively, I=E2=80=99d have to push the car up hill into the garage (all my c=
ar friends are distant and/or old).
=20
Is it wishful thinking to contemplate pulling the pan and loosening the cran=
k bolts to install the vitron upgraded seal from underneath?
=20
Thanks,
=20
Art
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I would agree with Jerry, can be done, more=
 work, awkward working position. &nbsp;I just did one of these last year wit=
h good results but the motor was out. &nbsp; I would recommend Kas K=E2=80=99=
s book if only for the chapter that covers this seal. &nbsp;<div>Bill<br><br=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=
=E2=80=9CLast night I saw upon the stair,<br>A little man who wasn't there,<=
br>He wasn't there again today<br>Oh, how I wish he'd go away=E2=80=9D.... M=
earns</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 3, 2021, at 12:36 PM, jerry va=
n vlack &lt;jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
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></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I suppose you could but it wouldn=E2=80=99t be e=
asy and the results might disappoint. In that area in addition to the crank s=
eal you must also carefully seal the rear bearing cap to block cavity. I hav=
e found that cavity is as much if not more of a leak path than the crank. Th=
e scroll type seal used on our cars is really quite good if set up properly b=
y the work shop manual. But in my experience the cap to block seal cavity ge=
ts overlooked and I=E2=80=99ve seen significant leakage from a poor job with=
 that area. Might be hard doing that from below. Many an engine rebuild has d=
isappointed the owner because the cap to block is actually leaking but the c=
rank seal gets the blame.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">Just my 2 cents worth.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">JVV<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D=
"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</a> for Windows</p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D"mso-element:para-bo=
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n"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:artwmcewen@gmail.com";>Art McEwen</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday=
, November 3, 2021 1:03 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.te=
am.net">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] TR3A rear main s=
eal w/ engine in</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">Can a vitron seal be installed while the engine is in place=
 if the gearbox is out?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">When I put the car up for winter storage I pulled the gear=
box for a rebuild but I quickly realized most of the oil leakage was from th=
e rear main crank seal.&nbsp; However the winter storage area is gravel besi=
de the garage without room to get an engine lift to the front (or maneuver i=
t well on gravel).&nbsp; Alternatively, I=E2=80=99d have to push the car up h=
ill into the garage (all my car friends are distant and/or old).</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is it wishful thi=
nking to contemplate pulling the pan and loosening the crank bolts to instal=
l the vitron upgraded seal from underneath?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p=
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