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I have a 66 TR4 motor in my TR3, never add oil between changes, no leaks.=20=
Bill B
TS30800L
=E2=80=9CLast night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away=E2=80=9D.... Mearns
On Nov 12, 2021, at 8:29 AM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF
How about a quart per fillup?
=20
And I totally disagree that these engines need to use oil. My engine was re=
built by an excellent mechanic, and it uses practically no oil.=20
=20
I almost never have to add oil. And we drive it hard.=20
=20
=20
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 7:50 PM
To: dave@ranteer.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 issue
=20
What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oil?" These things are notorious for=
using a lot of oil. The factory once said that a quart every 600 miles is "=
normal." But that was probably an effort to get out of some warranty work.=20=
=20
I seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke on acceleration was blow-by, (i.e=
. rings)
=20
I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart every 300 miles. A c=
o-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston ring department said that I m=
ay have installed the rings upside down. He said they were not symmetrical a=
nd applied more pressure on the bottom edge to better scrape any oil on the c=
ylinder walls to reduce consumption.=20
=20
I bought a used engine to drive while I rebuilt this one. This used engine i=
s still in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) and looses a=
quart every 1300 miles or so. Some times it is best to leave well enough a=
lone.
=20
Dave
=20
=20
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From: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, Nov 11, 2021 8:56 am
Subject: [TR] TR6 issue
I have a friend who has a 74 TR6. Recent rebuild of the engine both top and=
bottom. We are a little suspicious of the machine shop that did the head. =
The bottom end was done a year later by a different machinist.
=20
All pollution stuff is gone.
=20
Compression across all 6 cylinders is within a couple PSI
=20
Leakdown test was a small % on all cylinders
=20
Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue puff when he accelerates or eng=
ine brakes
=20
We think its likely the valve guides are leaking.
=20
What do you think?
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=9CLast night I saw upon the stair,<br>A little man who wasn't there,<br>He w=
asn't there again today<br>Oh, how I wish he'd go away=E2=80=9D.... Mearns</=
span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 12, 2021, at 8:29 AM, dave <dave@r=
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oNormal">How about a quart per fillup?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And I totally disagree that thes=
e engines need to use oil. My engine was rebuilt by an excellent mecha=
nic, and it uses practically no oil. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I almost never have to add o=
il. And we drive it hard. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div style=3D=
"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> <br><=
b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 11, 2021 7:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> dave@ranteer.c=
om; triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 issue<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",san=
s-serif;color:black">What is meant by "Engine uses a lot of oil?" Thes=
e things are notorious for using a lot of oil. The factory once said t=
hat a quart every 600 miles is "normal." But that was probably an effo=
rt to get out of some warranty work. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black">I seem to recall that a puff of blue smoke on a=
cceleration was blow-by, (i.e. rings)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sa=
ns-serif;color:black">I rebuilt a TR6 engine that ran great but lost a quart=
every 300 miles. A co-worker who used to work for TRW in the piston r=
ing department said that I may have installed the rings upside down. H=
e said they were not symmetrical and applied more pressure on the bottom edg=
e to better scrape any oil on the cylinder walls to reduce consumption. =
; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I bought a u=
sed engine to drive while I rebuilt this one. This used engine is stil=
l in the car 30 years later (I never rebuilt that engine) and looses a quart=
every 1300 miles or so. Some times it is best to leave well enough al=
one.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",san=
s-serif;color:black">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Messag=
e-----<br>From: dave <<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.co=
m</a>><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.t=
eam.net</a><br>Sent: Thu, Nov 11, 2021 8:56 am<br>Subject: [TR] TR6 issue<o:=
p></o:p></span></p><div id=3D"yiv3123217294"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-se=
rif;color:black">I have a friend who has a 74 TR6. Recent rebuild of t=
he engine both top and bottom. We are a little suspicious of the machi=
ne shop that did the head. The bottom end was done a year later by a d=
ifferent machinist.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;colo=
r:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:bl=
ack">All pollution stuff is gone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sa=
ns-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-s=
erif;color:black">Compression across all 6 cylinders is within a couple PSI<=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Leakdown test w=
as a small % on all cylinders<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-=
serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-seri=
f;color:black">Engine uses a lot of oil and there is a blue puff when he acc=
elerates or engine brakes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-seri=
f;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;co=
lor:black">We think its likely the valve guides are leaking.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">What do you think?<o:p></o:p><=
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