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Re: [TR] [NET] Incantation

To: "'David Friedlander'" <forzion7@gmail.com>, "'Philip Gott'" <vfracing@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Incantation
From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 08:20:37 -0500
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And just envision doing this with two halves of a farm tractor. Front =
axle and engine with flywheel at the front and transmission and final =
drives at the back end, all weighing about 12 =E2=80=93 15 thousand =
pounds combined. But the method is the same =E2=80=93 proper alignment, =
a gentle touch (with the help of wheeled splitting stands), and lots of =
patience. Plus, the same rule still applies =E2=80=93 never bring both =
halves together with force from the attaching bolts.

=20

Alex Thomson

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
David Friedlander
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:52 PM
To: Philip Gott
Cc: TR3 Triumphs; New England Triumphs; PeterAra@msn.com
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Incantation

=20

Thanks for the feedback thus far, gentlemen.

=20

My effort only included the transmission. I didn't service or=20

disassemble the clutch at all. I only replaced the throw-out=20

bearing, the sleeve for the TO bearing, the fork and pin and=20

the cross-shaft bushings. The output  shaft will now not=20

turn when in gear, signifying to me that the input shaft has=20

now aligned with the splines in the clutch.

=20

Dave

=20

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 4:41 PM Philip Gott <vfracing@aol.com> wrote:

Dave;

We=E2=80=99ve found that standing on your head while you turn the tail =
shaft a little bit at a time  with the transmission in gear helps to =
align the splines on the input shaft with the clutch. (You did first =
align the clutch with the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft, =
right? If you took it apart and did not touch the clutch, you=E2=80=99re =
ok on this already. ) also try rotating the transmission about the input =
shaft axis a bit. That helps to align the splines.

Good luck!

Phil G

Sent from my iPhone





On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:32 PM, David Friedlander via NET =
<net@newenglandtriumphs.org> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

Greetings, listers!

=20

I have now replaced the throwout bearing and sleeve on my OD =
transmission=20

and am trying to re-mate it with the engine. It's been several days of =
jacking,

maneuvering and pushing the tranny, to no avail. One won't get closer =
than an=20

inch to an inch-and-a-half to the other. Holes in the flanges of both =
line up,=20

the engine and transmission seem to be on the same plane but that's as =
far=20

as it goes.=20

=20

On what page of the manual is the incantation to speak over this effort? =
=20
Must be spoken with a Limey accent, right?  :- )


Dave

'59 TR3A

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And just =
envision doing this with two halves of a farm tractor. Front axle and =
engine with flywheel at the front and transmission and final drives at =
the back end, all weighing about 12 =E2=80=93 15 thousand pounds =
combined. But the method is the same =E2=80=93 proper alignment, a =
gentle touch (with the help of wheeled splitting stands), and lots of =
patience. Plus, the same rule still applies =E2=80=93 never bring both =
halves together with force from the attaching =
bolts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alex =
Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>David Friedlander<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:52 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Philip Gott<br><b>Cc:</b> TR3 Triumphs; New England =
Triumphs; PeterAra@msn.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [NET] =
Incantation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>Thanks for the feedback thus far, =
gentlemen.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>My effort only included the transmission. I =
didn't service or&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>disassemble the clutch at all. I only replaced =
the throw-out&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>bearing, the sleeve for the TO bearing, the fork =
and pin and&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>the cross-shaft bushings. The output&nbsp; shaft =
will now not&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>turn when in&nbsp;gear, signifying to me that =
the&nbsp;input shaft has&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>now aligned with the splines in the =
clutch.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 4:41 PM Philip Gott &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:vfracing@aol.com";>vfracing@aol.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dave;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We=E2=80=99ve found that standing on your head while =
you turn the tail shaft a little bit at a time &nbsp;with the =
transmission in gear helps to align the splines on the input shaft with =
the clutch. (You did first align the clutch with the pilot bearing in =
the end of the crankshaft, right? If you took it apart and did not touch =
the clutch, you=E2=80=99re ok on this already. ) also try rotating the =
transmission about the input shaft axis a bit. That helps to align the =
splines.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Good =
luck!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Phil G<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:32 PM, David =
Friedlander via NET &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; =
target=3D"_blank">net@newenglandtriumphs.org</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>=EF=BB=BF</span><o:p></o:p></=
p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>Greetings, =
listers!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>I have now replaced the throwout bearing and =
sleeve on my OD transmission&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>and am trying to re-mate it with the engine. =
It's been several days of jacking,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>maneuvering and pushing the&nbsp;tranny, to no =
avail. One won't get closer than =
an&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'>inch to an inch-and-a-half to the other. Holes in the =
flanges of both line up,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>the engine and transmission seem to be on the =
same plane but that's as far&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>as it =
goes.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#000099'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>On what page of the manual is the incantation to =
speak over this effort?&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Must be spoken with a Limey =
accent, right?&nbsp; :- )<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'><br>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#000099'>'59 TR3A<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NET =
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