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Re: motor I.D.

To: Brian Evans <brian@uunet.ca>
Subject: Re: motor I.D.
From: Derek Harling <derek.lola@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 20:53:21 -0400
Just a minor correction to this thread - British Leyland was not formed
until January 1968. Before that - and this is obviously what you are
refering to - it was BMC - British Motor Corporation.

Derek


Brian Evans wrote:
> 
> In the early 60's timeframe, the Canadian arm of British Leyland had what
> amounted to a national "works" program, acting as an adjunct to the English
> factory.  I've met a character maned Dennis Prophet who worked for the
> Canadian BL works team and prepared a number of cars, including a team of
> Leyland sponsored Healy 3000's that ran at Sebring.  He tells stories of how
> they used to show up at Mosport, Harewood, etc, with a truck loaded with
> engines, cranks, rods, heads, etc.  If you were running a Leyland car, you
> qualified for defacto sponsorship!  In those days, they ran the factory
> EN40B forged cranks for 3 races then tossed them due to fatigue!
> 
> This kind of program was what I was thinking of when I suggested the engine
> might be "factory", but as you say the XSP serial number really suggests the
> "real" factory, so to speak.  Some times you really wish the things could
> talk...
> 
> Brian
> 
> At 09:32 AM 8/3/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >Brian,
> >
> >There was the "Works"... which was the Donald Healey Motor Co.'s racing
> >efforts. They did Sebring, LeMans, Bonneville.
> >
> >The BMC Competition Dept. prepared all the cars for rallyes. I'm not sure if
> >the BMC effort used the XSP designation... I suspect not.
> >
> >I think a motor marked XSP refers to the Experimental Shop, headed up by
> >Roger Menadue, with Geoff Healey as the Chief Engineer, working for Donald
> >Healey.
> >
> >WST
> >Flounder
> >Team Thicko
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Brian Evans <brian@uunet.ca>
> >To: Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson@thicko.com>
> >Cc: <vintage-race@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 8:20 AM
> >Subject: Re: motor I.D.
> >
> >
> >> What's the difference between works and factory?  I know that in the era,
> >> British Leyland would provide race motors to some teams that they
> >produced,
> >> ready to run, fully race ready.  That's what I meant by "factory".  If
> >this
> >> motor was originally run by the official "Works" team, that is British
> >> Leyland themselves, then it would be a neat motor to have indeed...
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >>
> >> At 08:48 AM 8/3/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >The numbering suggests a Works, not a factory motor. Geoff said that the
> >XSP
> >> >designation on the engines produced by Donald's race efforts. Most
> >engines
> >> >were prepared by Eddie maher of Morris.
> >> >
> >> >WST
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: Brian Evans <brian@uunet.ca>
> >> >To: Haynes, Mark <mhaynes@ball.com>
> >> >Cc: <vintage-race@autox.team.net>
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 7:24 AM
> >> >Subject: Re: motor I.D.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I bet it's a factory Junior motor.  They started making these in late
> >> >1961,
> >> >> and they were a precursor to the 1070 Junior engine, which had the
> >bigger
> >> >> bore/shorter stroke.
> >> >>
> >> >> Brian
> >> >>
> >> >> At 09:33 AM 7/30/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >> > I just happened on an A series motor which I cannot identify by block
> >> >I.D.
> >> >> >A little help would be appreciated. The block tag says"XSP 18669" it
> >has
> >> >a
> >> >> >2.67" bore, with a 3.00" stroke. It has an 11-bolt, 1-stud pattern,
> >the
> >> >head
> >> >> >has no heater take-off. It has 2 lock-wired caps on the back of the
> >> >manifold
> >> >> >side of the block, and, of all things an 8-bolt flywheel attachment.
> >Does
> >> >> >anyone know any possibilities? I have an old Clymers manual which says
> >> >that
> >> >> >Huffaker bored out 948s to 2.67"to make a 1096cc Formula Junior motor,
> >> >It's
> >> >> >set up for inline application,and has valve reliefs cut into the
> >block.
> >> >The
> >> >> >head is a 12A128 casting, which should be a Cooper 'S' MKI head. Any
> >help
> >> >> >would be appreciated
> >> >> >Mark Haynes
> >> >> >'62 Sprite (with unknown motor waiting)
> >> >> >
> >> >> Brian Evans
> >> >> Director, Global Sales
> >> >> UUNET, An MCI WorldCom Company
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Brian Evans
> >> Director, Global Sales
> >> UUNET, An MCI WorldCom Company
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> Brian Evans
> Director, Global Sales
> UUNET, An MCI WorldCom Company

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