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To: Steve Kirby <skirby210@cox.net>, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net>, zmagnette <zmagnette@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Replies to list... <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: James Rogers <chewbaca111@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 14:57:41 -0700
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: zmagnette@autox.team.net
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I believe that the default reply should be to reply to the sender in stead
of replying to the entire list. I think this default will automatically act
to moderate the volume of email traffic by encouraging the one replying to
consider if addressing the entire group is necessary. This approach is
considered proper listserv/web group etiquette.

Oh, and a thanks to the almighty moderator for setting this whole thing up.

For more info on listserv etiquette see:
http://listserv.arizona.edu/etiquette.html

Cheers,
James

Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: Steve Kirby
Sent: 10/19/2013 4:15 PM
To: Allen Bachelder; zmagnette
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Replies to list...

   tis better this way, IMHO

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net>
*To:* zmagnette <zmagnette@autox.team.net>
*Sent:* Saturday, October 19, 2013 10:59 AM
*Subject:* [Zmagnette] Replies to list...

OK, we've all noted that with this new list, replies go to the sender only.
 You can over-ride this by using a "reply all" function. A computer guru I
am not, but I have been to the administrative site and studied the material
on the "reply to" function.  It looks like I can change this easily, but
the instructions STRONGLY recommend  against it.  I'm not sure I can
understand why - outside of the obvious reason that emails intended for one
other person only can embarrass or hurt when accidentally sent to an entire
list.  The verb to "mung" comes up in this context.  I have googled the
term "mung", and have learned only that it is an acronym meaning "modify
until no good".  I fail to understand it's use in this context.  I mean,
what are the ramifications if I modify my "reply to" function until [it's]
no good. Can somebody 'splain...?

As it is, the default setting prevents the heartbreak of munging as well as
accidental hurt or embarrassment.  I can see that it might also be useful
in minimizing use of the list for private messaging.  For example: I ask
the list if anyone has a spare ZA ashtray.  The responses will come to me
only, not the list, and further correspondence about ZA ashtrays, the
history of ashtrays, the origin of the term "ashtray", and failed
experiments in the design and construction of ashtrays will be restricted
to only those interested.

OTOH, we are all long-accustomed to a list that automatically sends all our
replies to the list, and the change will put us all on a new learning curve.

So - I am left to asking your preferences before I press the magic buttons.
 And I know I'm putting myself in a dangerous spot by asking because the
results will be about half and half and no matter what I do I'm going to
piss somebody off.  To ease my pain, I'll say that barring a strong
objection, I'm strongly inclined to make the change back to that to which
we are accustomed.

Yours for better listing... (or is "listing" simply precedent to
"sinking"?),
Allen
  ******************************************************************
         *Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs*
*'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT*
*North Street, MI 48049, USA*
*http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs*
         ******************************************************************

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ent-Type"></head><body><div><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:11pt">I believe that the default reply should be to reply to the se=
nder in stead of replying to the entire list. I think this default will aut=
omatically act to moderate the volume of email traffic by encouraging the o=
ne replying to consider if addressing the entire group is necessary. This a=
pproach is considered proper listserv/web group etiquette.<br>
<br>Oh, and a thanks to the almighty moderator for setting this whole thing=
 up.<br><br>For more info on listserv etiquette see: <a href=3D"http://list=
serv.arizona.edu/etiquette.html">http://listserv.arizona.edu/etiquette.html=
</a><br>
<br>Cheers,<br>James<br><br>Sent from my Windows Phone<br></div></div><hr><=
span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold=
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>Steve Kirby</span><br>
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<div>tis better this way, IMHO</div>
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  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"bachldrs@comcast.net" href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net";>Al=
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  Bachelder</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"zmagnette@autox.tea=
m.net" href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>zmagnette</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 19, 2013 10=
:59=20
  AM</div>
  <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [Zmagnette] Replies to=20
  list...</div>
  <div><br></div>OK, we&#39;ve all noted that with this new list, replies g=
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  <div>As it is, the default setting prevents the heartbreak of munging as =
well=20
  as accidental hurt or embarrassment. =A0I can see that it might also be=
=20
  useful in minimizing use of the list for private messaging. =A0For exampl=
e:=20
  I ask the list if anyone has a spare ZA ashtray. =A0The responses will co=
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  history of ashtrays, the origin of the term &quot;ashtray&quot;, and fail=
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se=20
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  <div><br></div>
  <div>OTOH, we are all long-accustomed to a list that automatically sends =
all=20
  our replies to the list, and the change will put us all on a new learning=
=20
  curve.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>So - I am left to asking your preferences before I press the magic=
=20
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ng=20
  because the results will be about half and half and no matter what I do I=
&#39;m=20
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  <div><br></div>
  <div>Yours for better listing... (or is &quot;listing&quot; simply preced=
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  <div>Allen<br>
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