[PreWar] are these lists still alive ?

[David Laver]

There are ways to limit the power of that engine...  That would save the axle,
wheels, and prevent having to fit a 140mph speedometer.   Otherwise it
shouldn't be all that hard to find a low spec and past its best A-series
engfine and box.



David

> Subject: RE: [PreWar] are these lists still alive ?
> From: mikey at b2systems.com
> To: david_laver at hotmail.com
> CC: british-cars at autox.team.net; british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:45:31 -0700
>
>
> Several people have asked this already, my reason for swapping the rear
> also was the new MG motor would put out quite a bit more power, the
> Singer rear is already a known weak point and while I know that its my
> right foot that controls the power, I was just thinking that swapping it
> out was the "smart" thing to do.
>
> Someone already pointed out that the MG axle being 3.25" narrower my
> original Singer wheels might rub on the inside of the wheel wells/body,
> extremely good point that I had not thought of, I need to measure that
> one.
>
> mike
>
> On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 09:07 +0000, David Laver wrote:
> >
> > Why not leave the Singer rear axle in place? That would solve
> > the brake and track problems. You're going to need a special
> > propshaft anyway so get that made up to suit MGB gearbox at the front
> > and Singer axle at the back.
> >
> > Just a thought...
> >
> > David
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:41:59 -0700
> > > From: mikey at b2systems.com
> > > To: british-cars at autox.team.net; british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [PreWar] are these lists still alive ?
> > >
> > > I have a question about my 1934 Singer, I have very serious
> > concerns
> > > about the motor and I am considering a temporary engine swap. The
> > > Singer is a 6cylinder 1.5litre car, I have free access to a late
> > 1960's
> > > or extremely early 1970's MGB that is pretty much a running rust
> > bucket
> > > parts donor. I am going to assume that its a 1800cc motor but
> > anyone
> > > know the weight of the motor also motor and trans ?
> > >
> > > The Singer wheel track is 4'4" front and rear and according to the
> > > internet the MGB is 4.125 for the rear, I would have to put the
> > Singer's
> > > 18" wire wheels on the MGB's rear axle. Would that track difference
> > be
> > > a issue on the handling of the car ? since its wire wheels I am not
> > sure
> > > I could put in spacers like you would on a steel rims.
> > >
> > > My thinking is to butcher this extremely rare 1934 Singer and put
> > in
> > > the MGB drivetrain while I get the Singer motor redone, that will
> > take
> > > some serious cash, the block is cracked, I have to have pistons
> > made,
> > > babbitt bearings poured and its all going to be very expensive. I
> > would
> > > not want to do any permanent butchering of the Singer, anything and
> > > everything I do would have to be reversable when I finish the
> > proper
> > > motor but it gets it on the road for now.
> > >
> > > Both rear ends are leaf springs so I don't see a issue there, the
> > > engine compartment is quite roomy for the 6 cylinder so the MG 4
> > should
> > > fit very nicely (not measured anything yet), I could weld up motor
> > > mounts that minimize the damage to the Singer or better yet do no
> > > damage. The only "gotcha" I have at this time would be the clutch
> > and
> > > brake pedal assembly and mixing the MG rear brakes with the Singer
> > front
> > > brakes, I have to check on that as I don't even like the sound of
> > it,
> > > but I should be able to take the MG front axle back plates and put
> > them
> > > on the Singer, so I am back to just the pedal assembly without
> > damaging
> > > the Singer chassis.
> > >
> > > I have all the cool toys to do this with, lathe, mill, welders, etc.
> > I
> > > just don't have the engine/drivetrain switching knowledge, never
> > done
> > > that YET but it does not look too hard. Well I have started it on
> > > another car but its not finished yet.
> > >
> > > mike