[Fot] Seat belts

Sat Aug 15 23:45:39 MDT 2015

PJ,

I can’t find the web link at the moment but several times I have installed 3-point harnesses in street-driven Morgans.  These have a metal buckle, similar to what you see used on an airline seat but wider.  The last two sets I installed had an adjustment strap at the buckle and another at the aft end of the shoulder harness (the male part of the buckle can be slid along the strap that serves both as shoulder strap and as part of the lap belt). I found these with a Google search in the past.  You might find them in an online aircraft parts catalog such as Wicks or Aircraft Spruce and Specialty — if looking in an aircraft catalog search for the ones without an STC (supplemental type certificate) since they cost a lot more but are not necessarily better for your needs.  

Duncan

> On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Really John?? What period was that ?
>   I was fine with just a lap belt for  a track day but in order to do another their telling me I need to have at least a shoulder restraint added.   Does anyone make a good quality three point system that will fit our cars?
>  As for a roll cage I completely understand the need and function but I have decided not to go much farther with performance upgrades to this car. I just feel like it's too nice to chop all up and make a race car. I'd much rather buy a car that has been raced or one which is in need of restoration that I won't feel bad about chopping up a bit. Prefer GT6 but I am considering a TR6 also. Anything out there??
>                       P.J.
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> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:00 PM, John Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com <mailto:jhasty at mhc-law.com>> wrote:
> With no roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap belt for you and another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you flip you can lay down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt and hold on!!!!!
> 
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> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:35 PM, "McKearn McKearn" <mckearn2 at gmail.com <mailto:mckearn2 at gmail.com><mailto:mckearn2 at gmail.com <mailto:mckearn2 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
>  Thanks for the replies.  I'm thinking a four or five point restraint is what I want but getting the attachment points for the shoulder belts might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment bracket between the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I would call the rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind the seat is that currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put behind the seat. I thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall thickness would be more than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to it through the carpet as attachment points. That way only the eye bolts and the belts will be visible from above. Any thoughts?
>                    P.J.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond <alfetta95 at optonline.net <mailto:alfetta95 at optonline.net><mailto:alfetta95 at optonline.net <mailto:alfetta95 at optonline.net>>> wrote:
> Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind the drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. Location is important. Can't be too sharp an angle. I've done this in several street/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars were hidden under the rear seat.  Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness with snap in attachments. U are good to go.  If u want to add the 5th hook for the anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 pt harness.
> 
> Thanks
> Todd Redmond
> 
> > On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2 at gmail.com <mailto:mckearn2 at gmail.com><mailto:mckearn2 at gmail.com <mailto:mckearn2 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All.
> >   I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6,  the tech inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm limited. Any suggestions?
> >                          Thanks. P.J.
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