[Fot] valve shims and springs

[Dave]

Yes. I'm sure that is what's happened here.  The shims are too soft.  The golden shims are hardened and probably grade8 with no stampings or identification. Golden color same as grade 8 hardware. The other shims are stamped, valve spring shim and Houser, Blufton, Ind.  
Dave H.

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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Titanium is not a good material for friction.
> That’s why titanium rods never have contact to cranks.
>  
> Cheers
> Chris
>  
> Von: Brian Schirano <bschirano1 at gmail.com> 
> Gesendet: Samstag, 18. April 2020 20:05
> An: tr4racing at googlemail.com
> Betreff: Re: [Fot] valve shims and springs
>  
> I think I got hardened or titanium cup type setup from either Richard Goode or Kai at Wishbone Classics
>  
> Brian
>  
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 12:48 PM Chris Marx via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>  
> these shims need to be hardened steel.
> On my TR4 I use no shims. The cast iron is a good surface for spring rotation.
> On the TR8 with the aluminum head there are shims. The first set was squeezed out after a few races, they were too soft.
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> The second set of shims was nitrate hardened and they last.
>  
> Cheers
> Chris
>  
>  
> Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von DAVE HOGYE via Fot
> Gesendet: Samstag, 18. April 2020 17:33
> An: Friends of Triumph <Fot at autox.team.net>
> Betreff: [Fot] valve shims and springs
>  
> Hello Friends,
> I've removed and disassembled my TR3 engine after 7 years, 19 race events and about 5500 miles since it's completion. 
> The crank and cam look excellent as do the bearings, both mains and rods.  
> One thing I found was that some of the valve spring shims were disintegrating.  There are two different types of shims, one golden/yellow and one plain silver. The problem is that the silver ones are heavily worn from the springs tearing them up.  The golden yellow shims look as installed, with no visual wear and they don't seem to have been rotating.  It obvious the springs over the silver shims were rotating and causing the heavy wear.  Perhaps these shims are too soft.
> Can someone enlighten me on this?  
> In the garage on lockdown,
> Dave H.
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