[Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

Sat Oct 8 08:57:20 MDT 2022

Guys, let it be.  Josef has been clear on how he feels and we have collectively told him what we think of his opinions.  There will be no changing his mind, so lets accept that he lives by a different moral code that none of us (at least those that posted replies), agree with, and get back to using the list for providing mutual support to keep our Healeys on the road.

Cheers, Mirek

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tom Felts via Healeys
Sent: October 8, 2022 6:18 AM
To: Gil Rockwell <gilrockwell at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

I haven't!!  But this will be MY last comment about this.  Josef YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE!  Admin---delete me if you want, but there are times to say exactly what is needed to be said.

Tom

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From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
To: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

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I’ve said enough, you don’t seem to get it, so I am ending this conversation.

Gil

From: josef-eckert at t-online.de <josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Cc: gilrockwell at gmail.com
Subject: WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

So it isn´t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth?

Is that the world you are living?

But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while 
driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident.
Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and 
this would have been injured or killed.
The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the 
accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been 
withdrawn forever. No mercy!
The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore.
Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation.
It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger.
I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy.

Josef

54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars

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Betreff: RE: [Healey’s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200

Von: "Gil Rockwell" <gilrockwell at gmail.com <mailto:gilrockwell at gmail.com> >

An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> " <josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> >, "healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> " <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >, "'Forum Healey'" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

In a polite society if you don’t have anything positive to say, just be quiet,  your negative comments help no one.  Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand.  

Gil

61 BT7

From:josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de>  <josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> > 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM
To: Gil Rockwell <gilrockwell at gmail.com <mailto:gilrockwell at gmail.com> >; healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> ; Forum Healey <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: AW: [Healey’s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion.

We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other..

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Betreff: RE: [Healey’s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200

Von: "Gil Rockwell" <gilrockwell at gmail.com <mailto:gilrockwell at gmail.com> >

An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> " <josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> >, "healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> " <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >, "'Forum Healey'" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all.  What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional.

Gil

61 BT7

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM
To:healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> ; Forum Healey <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. 
Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. 

Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. 

Josef Eckert 
Königswinter GERMANY 

Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App 

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Von: HealeyRick via Healeys 
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 
Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 
An: Randy Hicks 
Cc: Healey List 

I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident.  She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux

Rick Neville 

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

Awful.  

https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/

Randy 

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