[Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose

Bob Spidell bspidell at comcast.net
Tue Apr 15 09:29:38 MDT 2025 

4-lb lead sacrificial hammers don't damage the knock-on/offs at all. 
Once, when I didn't have one, I used a wood block and a small 
sledgehammer, and flattened an ear a bit.

On 4/15/2025 6:34 AM, m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> Call me silly, but I rather like the slightly flattened side on a 
> knock-off that has been tightened with the factory-supplied brass 
> hammer.  It adds to the patina and, in my opinion, is part of the 
> car’s journey.
>
> I too tighten my wheels when off the ground and have never had one 
> come loose.
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Robert 
> Markovich via Healeys
> *Sent:* April 15, 2025 9:00 AM
> *To:* sbyers at ec.rr.com; Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Alan Wasserman <alanwassermannc at gmail.com>; Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose
>
> I've always tightened the knockoffs with the vehicle raised, then, 
> after lowering it, given it a final few whacks with the wheels on the 
> ground. Never had one loosen yet! Will also be looking into a neat new 
> long-handled alloy knockoff-tightening/loosening tool offered by AH 
> Spares where the alloy business end is shaped to slip over the 
> knockoff. I imagine the long handle will provide the needed leverage 
> entirely missing from those flimsy two-handled wooden tools, which 
> I've found worthless.
>
> On Tuesday, April 15, 2025, 08:09:28 AM EDT, Michael Salter 
> <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sadly AI doesn't give credit to the ingenuity of Rudge Whitworth who 
> patented the self tightening splined wheel hub in 1921.
>
> On Tue., Apr. 15, 2025, 4:12 a.m. sbyers--- via Healeys, 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     The knockoffs are designed to tighten while driving.  But
>     experience has taught me that they can loosen if not seated to
>     begin with, and they might not be seated if tightened with the
>     weight on the hub.  My theory is that weight on the wheel makes
>     the knockoff off-center when tightened.
>
>     Here is the AI-generated response to the question:  “Should
>     knockoffs be tightened with the weight on, or off, the wheel?
>
>     *“Knock-off hubs should be tightened with the weight off the
>     vehicle*. This ensures proper torque and prevents the wheel from
>     being unevenly seated. While on the ground, the wheel is subjected
>     to weight distribution, and the knock-off might not seat as snugly
>     when tightened under load.”
>
>     Steve Byers
>
>     HBJ8L/36666
>
>     BJ8 Registry
>
>     AHCA Delegate at Large
>
>     *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of
>     *JSARCH via Healeys
>     *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2025 6:46 PM
>     *To:* 'Alan Wasserman' <alanwassermannc at gmail.com>; 'Healeys'
>     <healeys at autox.team.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose
>
>     Interesting. The knock-off on my BT7 tighten while the car is
>     driving. Below is an A.I. generated answer to the question “do
>     knock-offs tighten while driving”:
>
>     Yes, knock-offs are designed to be self-tightening while driving,
>     meaning they can become tighter as the vehicle moves forward.
>     However, if they are not installed correctly or if the vehicle is
>     towed in reverse, they can loosen instead.
>
>     John,
>
>     ’62 BT&
>
>     *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of
>     *Alan Wasserman
>     *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2025 2:28 PM
>     *To:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>     *Cc:* Alan Wasserman <AlanWassermanNC at gmail.com>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose
>
>     Just a warning to all.  As you may imagine, sometimes our wheels
>     may ? loosen.  Had my BJ8 on the lift today, checking brakes.
>     Jiggled the wheels, just because. Rear left had “significant"
>     lateral movement.  Took the old rubber mallet and had to tighten
>     almost 1/4 turn. /Very scary/.  Please check your wheels whenever
>     your car is on a lift.  Happy rides.
>
>         On Apr 14, 2025, at 2:00 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote:
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