[Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose

Fred Wescoe fredwescoe at gmail.com
Tue Apr 15 15:22:19 MDT 2025 

Listers,

Call me crazy but I have always tightened the knockoffs with the wheels off
the ground,  and, I use a 4 lb dead blow hammer.  This hammer (plastic
coated) does not do damage to the knock off or the hammer.  It is nice to
have unscared knock offs and hammer.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:40 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> 4-lb lead sacrificial hammers don't damage the knock-on/offs at all. Once,
> when I didn't have one, I used a wood block and a small sledgehammer, and
> flattened an ear a bit.
>
> On 4/15/2025 6:34 AM, m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> Call me silly, but I rather like the slightly flattened side on a
> knock-off that has been tightened with the factory-supplied brass hammer.
> It adds to the patina and, in my opinion, is part of the car’s journey.
>
>
>
> I too tighten my wheels when off the ground and have never had one come
> loose.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>
> <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Robert Markovich via
> Healeys
> *Sent:* April 15, 2025 9:00 AM
> *To:* sbyers at ec.rr.com; Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Alan Wasserman <alanwassermannc at gmail.com>
> <alanwassermannc at gmail.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose
>
>
>
> I've always tightened the knockoffs with the vehicle raised, then, after
> lowering it, given it a final few whacks with the wheels on the ground.
> Never had one loosen yet! Will also be looking into a neat new long-handled
> alloy knockoff-tightening/loosening tool offered by AH Spares where the
> alloy business end is shaped to slip over the knockoff. I imagine the long
> handle will provide the needed leverage entirely missing from those flimsy
> two-handled wooden tools, which I've found worthless.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 15, 2025, 08:09:28 AM EDT, Michael Salter <
> michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Sadly AI doesn't give credit to the ingenuity of Rudge Whitworth who
> patented the self tightening splined wheel hub in 1921.
>
>
>
> On Tue., Apr. 15, 2025, 4:12 a.m. sbyers--- via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> The knockoffs are designed to tighten while driving.  But experience has
> taught me that they can loosen if not seated to begin with, and they might
> not be seated if tightened with the weight on the hub.  My theory is that
> weight on the wheel makes the knockoff off-center when tightened.
>
>
>
> Here is the AI-generated response to the question:  “Should knockoffs be
> tightened with the weight on, or off, the wheel?
>
>
>
> *“Knock-off hubs should be tightened with the weight off the vehicle*.
> This ensures proper torque and prevents the wheel from being unevenly
> seated. While on the ground, the wheel is subjected to weight distribution,
> and the knock-off might not seat as snugly when tightened under load.”
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *JSARCH
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2025 6:46 PM
> *To:* 'Alan Wasserman' <alanwassermannc at gmail.com>; 'Healeys' <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose
>
>
>
> Interesting. The knock-off on my BT7 tighten while the car is driving.
> Below is an A.I. generated answer to the question “do knock-offs tighten
> while driving”:
>
>
>
> Yes, knock-offs are designed to be self-tightening while driving, meaning
> they can become tighter as the vehicle moves forward. However, if they are
> not installed correctly or if the vehicle is towed in reverse, they can
> loosen instead.
>
>
>
> John,
>
> ’62 BT&
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Alan
> Wasserman
> *Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2025 2:28 PM
> *To:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Cc:* Alan Wasserman <AlanWassermanNC at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healeys Tires/wheels lose
>
>
>
> Just a warning to all.  As you may imagine, sometimes our wheels may ?
> loosen.  Had my BJ8 on the lift today, checking brakes.  Jiggled the
> wheels, just because.  Rear left had “significant" lateral movement.  Took
> the old rubber mallet and had to tighten almost 1/4 turn.  *Very scary*.
> Please check your wheels whenever your car is on a lift.  Happy rides.
>
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2025, at 2:00 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote:
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