[JONAT-chat] Re: [JONAT-chat] Re: [JONAT-chat] Mesa Ver
de (Colorado sector) lodging
Jamie - JONAT
jonat-chat@autox.team.net
Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:45:28 -0800
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Robert? Have you had any contact with Steve Crase? When I was down =
that way last fall he mentioned his desire to help JONAT organize =
things.
Jamie
Jamie & Dru - Tulalip, WA
88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
89 XJS V12 Convertible - Butch
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 14, 2004 - July 10, 2004
Executive Committee Member
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From: RMac@aol.com=20
To: marks@jaguarot.com ; jonat-chat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: [JONAT-chat] Re: [JONAT-chat] Mesa Verde (Colorado sector) =
lodging
A couple of items:
Re the handoff: Entrance to MVNP is $10 per car if you do not have a =
National Parks Pass, so for those not touring the Park, it would be a =
burden. Also, while Microsoft's MapBlast says it's a 32 minute trip =
from Far View Lodge to the Cortez motel, other sources call this wildly =
optimistic. I am flexible on this. Might I suggest the handoff be =
dinner at the Far View Lodge restaurant on April 28?
Re the schedule change:
If you are confused, I am frustrated to the point of chewing on the =
carpet. I changed the route in November, but cannot get the route =
changed on the official itinerary. Check the list mail archives and =
search for messages with subject headings which include "Hijacking =
Texas" and "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO". The only real change I have made =
since then was to extend the Tuesday April 27 leg by 40 miles from =
Durango to MVNP because the afternoon tour was unavailable and I was =
trying to eliminate a 7:30 AM start to catch the morninig tour.
As far as the route between Texas and Golden is concerned, it seems at =
this moment irrelevant; no one has expressed any interest in joining it. =
I made route suggestions on a couple of occasions, but have run into a =
maddening wall of indifference. Let Mark McDavid take the Houston leg =
wherever he pleases; there is no need to consider getting from there to =
here. Our mascot will need to travel FedEx to get from Houston to =
Golden.=20
I am not quite finished with my hour-by-hour schedule, but hope to =
have it to you Real Soon Now -- perhaps 48 hours.
Robert
In a message dated 3/23/04 1:43:00 PM, marks@jaguarot.com writes:
Robert,
You have me totally confused. Here's the itinerary cut and pasted =
from the website:
OKLAHOMA CITY
April 23 Friday Dallas / Ft. Worth to Oklahoma City =
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April 24 Saturday Oklahoma City to ? =20
April 25 Sunday ? to Garden City OK =20
DENVER
April 26 Monday Garden City OK to Golden CO =20
April 27 Tuesday Golden CO to Gunnison CO =20
April 28 Wednesday Gunnison CO to Mesa Verde National =
Park CO 3 hour park tour =20
Is there a route change not posted? Bob! Help! :-)
Does this revision mean you want to do the hand-off in Cortez? =
Yikes! My sector is already to go with Mesa Verde as the handoff. I =
could redo it starting at Cortez. Either that or we should keep the =
handoff at Far View. If we are down to a week or less to go and we don't =
have a bunch of people trying to join us at Mesa Verde, then we can wing =
it and cancel and Mesa Verde and book in Cortez. Or book both places for =
the 28th, but a bunch of cancellations at the last minute seems unfair.
Dick, what are you planning?
While I like the idea of cutting off a half hour at the beginning, =
the drive to Page is almost all 65 mph 2-lane highway, According to my =
calculations it should be about 5 hours, 45 minutes of driving time for =
292 miles.
Mark
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From: jonat-chat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-chat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RMac@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 1:00 PM
To: jonat-chat@autox.team.net
Subject: [JONAT-chat] Re: [JONAT-chat] Mesa Verde (Colorado =
sector) lodging
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Dick, thanks for making the effort! Apparently the electronic =
reservations system for Aramark is down, and Orbitz was simply =
defaulting to "no rooms available." Good news for us.
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Here is the official Motels list for the Colorado Sector:
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Night of:
April 24 Golden Hotel, Golden CO
April 25 Golden Hotel, Golden CO
April 26 Best Western Tomichi Village Inn, Gunnison=20
April 27 Far View Lodge, Mesa Verde NP
alternate: Best Western Durango Inn And Suites, Durango
April 28 Best Western Sands, Cortez
alternate: Far View Lodge, Mesa Verde NP
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Details are attached as ColoradoLodging.pdf for Dick and Mark. =
Anyone else who is interesed can read it at http://tinyurl.com/2j8kd
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I will be staying at home for the Golden/Denver nights, and the =
listed motels the other nights. Right now no one but myself and my =
rider are joining at Golden.
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I will change my own reservations to Far View Lodge on the 27 =
and Best Western - Cortez on the 28. The drive to Page will be a long =
one, and the half hour head start will help lengthen the time available =
for sightseeing. Being half the price helps, too. Those who value peace =
and quiet over a telephone connection, and not having to vacate their =
room every single morning, will probably prefer to stay both nights at =
the Lodge.
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The afternoon tour of Mesa Verde is unavailable until after May =
1, unfortunately. The morning and all-day tours, however, are available =
and I shall probably be taking the all-day tour myself. Tour-free =
exploration is available for those who prefer it, except for key ruins. =
Those require a Ranger escort, but are inexpensive ($2.75 for a one hour =
tour) and run hourly for the ruins open this early in the season. If =
you do not wish to devote an entire day to the Park, stay in Durango =
Tuesday night and spend the morning seeing the sights there.
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By the way, Best Western shows all their rates on their own =
site, and these match the best which can be gotten from the discount =
websites such as Orbitz and Travelocity. You should be aware that the =
cheapest rate for one BW is NOT necessarily the cheapest rate at =
another. I am AAA rate at two of them and "BestRates" at the third.
=20
Dick and Mark, you are two thirds of the Colorado contingent at =
the moment. Your input is welcome.
=20
--
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Robert MacLeay - Denver, CO
1990 VDP Majestic
Coordinator, Colorado Sector =
<http://homepage.mac.com/robertmacleay/.Public/JONAT-CO/COHighlights.html=
>
Jaguar Owners North American Tour 2004 - http://jonat.org
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In a message dated 3/23/04 11:53:57 AM, =
dhile@enterprise-lakepowell.com writes:
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We have a group of rooms reserved at the Far View Lodge at =
Mesa Verde.
Participants are to call 1-800-449-2288, which is a direct =
line to
Reservations and mention JONAT ( or "the Jaguar Group")
We are receiving a 25% discount and the rate is $82.00/night =
plus tax.
=20
NOTE: This is the ONLY lodging in the Park and those who =
miss out will
probably have to find accommodations in Cortez or Mancos =
(good luck) which
will complicate things if they want to tour the ruins, etc.
=20
I strongly advise that participants contact Far View =
IMMEDIATELY and reserve
a room. The General Manager will hold them as long as =
possible but they
won't last forever. This is a very popular tourist =
attraction and bus tours
are common, so one bus can wipe out a lot of rooms.
=20
BTW, the GM at Far View is also interested in buying a =
120FHC, so let me
know if anyone has a line on one.
=20
Dick Hile
Arizona ASC
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT-chat] Re: =
[JONAT-chat]=20
Mesa Verde (Colorado sector) lodging</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT face=3DGeneva =
color=3D#000000=20
size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">A couple of items:<BR><BR>Re the =
handoff: Entrance=20
to MVNP is $10 per car if you do not have a National Parks Pass, so =
for those=20
not touring the Park, it would be a burden. Also, while =
Microsoft's=20
MapBlast says it's a 32 minute trip from Far View Lodge to the Cortez =
motel,=20
other sources call this wildly optimistic. I am flexible on =
this. =20
Might I suggest the handoff be dinner at the Far View Lodge restaurant =
on=20
April 28?<BR><BR>Re the schedule change:<BR>If you are confused, I am=20
frustrated to the point of chewing on the carpet. I =
changed the=20
route in November, but cannot get the route changed on the official=20
itinerary. Check the list mail archives and search for messages =
with=20
subject headings which include "Hijacking Texas" and "NO NO NO NO NO =
NO NO=20
NO". The only real change I have made since then was to extend =
the=20
Tuesday April 27 leg by 40 miles from Durango to MVNP because the =
afternoon=20
tour was unavailable and I was trying to eliminate a 7:30 AM start to =
catch=20
the morninig tour.<BR><BR>As far as the route between Texas and Golden =
is=20
concerned, it seems at this moment irrelevant; no one has expressed =
any=20
interest in joining it. I made route suggestions on a =
couple of=20
occasions, but have run into a maddening wall of indifference. =
Let Mark=20
McDavid take the Houston leg wherever he pleases; there is no need to =
consider=20
getting from there to here. Our mascot will need to travel FedEx =
to get=20
from Houston to Golden. <BR><BR>I am not quite finished with my =
hour-by-hour=20
schedule, but hope to have it to you Real Soon Now -- perhaps 48=20
hours.<BR><BR>Robert<BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 3/23/04 1:43:00 PM, =
marks@jaguarot.com writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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cite=3D"" TYPE=3D"CITE"></FONT><FONT face=3DGeneva color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Robert,<BR><BR>You have me totally confused. =
Here's the=20
itinerary cut and pasted from the website:<BR><BR>OKLAHOMA =
CITY<BR>April=20
23 Friday Dallas / Ft. Worth =
to =20
Oklahoma City =20
<BR>April 24 Saturday Oklahoma =
City =20
to ? =20
<BR>April 25 Sunday ? =
to =20
Garden City OK =20
<BR>DENVER<BR>April 26 Monday Garden =
City=20
OK to Golden CO =
=20
<BR>April 27 Tuesday Golden =
CO =20
to Gunnison CO =
=20
<BR>April 28 Wednesday Gunnison =
CO =20
to Mesa Verde National Park CO 3 =
hour park=20
tour <BR><BR>Is there a route change not posted? Bob! =
Help!=20
:-)<BR><BR>Does this revision mean you want to do the hand-off in =
Cortez?=20
Yikes! My sector is already to go with Mesa Verde as the handoff. I =
could=20
redo it starting at Cortez. Either that or we should keep the =
handoff at Far=20
View. If we are down to a week or less to go and we don't have a =
bunch of=20
people trying to join us at Mesa Verde, then we can wing it and =
cancel and=20
Mesa Verde and book in Cortez. Or book both places for the 28th, but =
a bunch=20
of cancellations at the last minute seems unfair.<BR><BR>Dick, what =
are you=20
planning?<BR><BR>While I like the idea of cutting off a half hour at =
the=20
beginning, the drive to Page is almost all 65 mph 2-lane highway, =
According=20
to my calculations it should be about 5 hours, 45 minutes of driving =
time=20
for 292=20
=
miles.<BR><BR>Mark<BR><BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>&nb=
sp;=20
From: jonat-chat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-chat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
RMac@aol.com<BR> =20
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 1:00 PM<BR> To:=20
jonat-chat@autox.team.net<BR> Subject: [JONAT-chat] Re: =
[JONAT-chat] Mesa Verde (Colorado sector) lodging<BR> =20
<BR> <BR> Dick, thanks for making the =
effort! Apparently the electronic reservations system for =
Aramark is=20
down, and Orbitz was simply defaulting to "no rooms =
available." =20
Good news for us.<BR> <BR> Here is the =
official=20
Motels list for the Colorado Sector:<BR> <BR> =
Night=20
of:<BR> April 24 Golden Hotel, =
Golden=20
CO<BR> April 25 Golden Hotel, Golden =
CO<BR> April 26 Best Western Tomichi =
Village=20
Inn, Gunnison <BR> April 27 Far =
View=20
Lodge, Mesa Verde NP<BR> alternate: =20
Best Western Durango Inn And Suites, Durango<BR> =
=20
April 28 Best Western Sands, Cortez<BR> =
=20
alternate: Far View Lodge, Mesa =
Verde=20
NP<BR> <BR> Details are attached as=20
ColoradoLodging.pdf for Dick and Mark. Anyone else who is =
interesed=20
can read it at http://tinyurl.com/2j8kd<BR> <BR> =
I=20
will be staying at home for the Golden/Denver nights, and the listed =
motels=20
the other nights. Right now no one but myself and my rider are =
joining=20
at Golden.<BR> <BR> I will change my own=20
reservations to Far View Lodge on the 27 and Best Western - Cortez =
on the=20
28. The drive to Page will be a long one, and the half hour =
head start=20
will help lengthen the time available for sightseeing. Being =
half the=20
price helps, too. Those who value peace and quiet over a telephone=20
connection, and not having to vacate their room every single =
morning, will=20
probably prefer to stay both nights at the Lodge.<BR> =
<BR> =20
The afternoon tour of Mesa Verde is unavailable until after =
May 1,=20
unfortunately. The morning and all-day tours, however, are available =
and I=20
shall probably be taking the all-day tour myself. Tour-free=20
exploration is available for those who prefer it, except for key=20
ruins. Those require a Ranger escort, but are inexpensive =
($2.75 for a=20
one hour tour) and run hourly for the ruins open this early in the=20
season. If you do not wish to devote an entire day to the =
Park, stay=20
in Durango Tuesday night and spend the morning seeing the sights=20
there.<BR> <BR> By the way, Best Western =
shows all=20
their rates on their own site, and these match the best which can be =
gotten=20
from the discount websites such as Orbitz and Travelocity. You =
should be=20
aware that the cheapest rate for one BW is NOT necessarily the =
cheapest rate=20
at another. I am AAA rate at two of them and "BestRates" at the=20
third.<BR> <BR> Dick and Mark, you are two =
thirds=20
of the Colorado contingent at the moment. Your input is =
welcome.<BR> =20
<BR> --<BR> <BR> Robert =
MacLeay=20
- Denver, CO<BR> 1990 VDP Majestic<BR> =20
Coordinator, Colorado Sector=20
=
<http://homepage.mac.com/robertmacleay/.Public/JONAT-CO/COHighlights.h=
tml><BR> =20
Jaguar Owners North American Tour 2004 - =
http://jonat.org<BR> =20
<BR> <BR> <BR> In a =
message dated=20
3/23/04 11:53:57 AM, dhile@enterprise-lakepowell.com =
writes:<BR> =20
<BR> <BR> <BR><BR> =
=20
We have a group of rooms reserved at the Far View Lodge at Mesa=20
Verde.<BR> Participants are to call=20
1-800-449-2288, which is a direct line to<BR> =
=20
Reservations and mention JONAT ( or "the Jaguar Group")<BR> =
=20
We are receiving a 25% discount and the rate is =
$82.00/night=20
plus tax.<BR> <BR> =
=20
NOTE: This is the ONLY lodging in the Park and those who miss out=20
will<BR> probably have to find =
accommodations in=20
Cortez or Mancos (good luck) which<BR> =
will=20
complicate things if they want to tour the ruins, etc.<BR> =
=20
<BR> I strongly advise that=20
participants contact Far View IMMEDIATELY and reserve<BR> =
=20
a room. The General Manager will hold them as long as =
possible=20
but they<BR> won't last forever. This is =
a very=20
popular tourist attraction and bus tours<BR> =
are=20
common, so one bus can wipe out a lot of rooms.<BR> =
=20
<BR> BTW, the GM at Far View is =
also=20
interested in buying a 120FHC, so let me<BR> =
know=20
if anyone has a line on one.<BR> =
<BR> =20
Dick Hile<BR> Arizona =
ASC<BR> =20
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