[JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE

Bob jonat@autox.team.net
Fri Apr 18 08:15:01 2003


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Gregory

The gruelling, up to the minute schedule, is set by the computer and is a
little retentive.  (That's my story and I'm sticking to it!).  It may be
gruelling, but I'll leave you and your team to de-gruelize it - keep in mind
it's only a starting point for discussion.

On the schedule, there is three days for sure in your sector.  You will see
the pink days on the itinerary at
http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Itinerary.pdf
are unspoken for days.  I have left in as a float in case any Sector
upstream of you (or your Sector itself for that matter) needs them.  My pink
note might not be very clear, but the intent is if anyone upstream needs
them, they would be given the extra day, and that means one less pink day in
your area on the itinerary.

Right now we have two points on the Tour that are linking with pre-planned
events.  One in your Sector, and one in Phoenix.  This means we have to be
quite disciplined in our time per Sector scheduling.  You can see that it is
therefore important that everyone needs to have in place the number of days
to cross their sector in place soon, so everyone downstream of them knows
the actual dates of the Tour in their area.

I hope this is a little more clear (as mud I suppose!).  I guess what I need
to stress is that all Sectors need to be de-gruellified, and also the times
to traverse the Sectors need to be set in the not to distant future.

Bob England

  -----Original Message-----
  From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
  Sent: April 17, 2003 6:46 PM
  To: jonat@autox.team.net
  Cc: Doug Ingram; David and Barbara Cooke; Roy Gill
  Subject: Re: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE


  Bob: regarding the Victoria-Vancouver segment: the routing is fine, but
the times and schedule present a grueling, cruel and unusual punishment.
       It is my understanding that the participants would have several days
in this area, from the 16th of May to the 22nd (for the Van Dusen show).
Furthermore, the actual directions given within the cities are bizarre and
will have to be changed. So: the route is fine, but we are working here
under the assumption that there will be a few days at least in this area. It
is not possible, for example, to leave Whistler in the morning and to be on
the Van Dusen field in time for the show. People must be in Vancouver the
night before. If the timing is not the issue right now, but only the route,
then the general route is fine. We have been working on optional daytrips
around this area (well worth doing: the wine country, over to the wild
Pacific at Tofino, etc). No one is going to want to drive day after day.
Comment?
                                          Gregory
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Bob
    To: jonat@autox.team.net
    Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:05 PM
    Subject: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE


    Hello guys !

    Lest you relax too much this long weekend, perhaps I could ask a favour
(or two).

     I would like you all to check out the route map for your sector at
    http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Maps-Main.htm
    and update me with your comments by Saturday or Sunday.

    If you don't have a map there, please get me at least a preliminary
route.

    If you do have a map there, please update me with your comments and/or
route changes ("No changes" is an acceptable comment).

    I would like to get your comments by Saturday or Sunday.  Either send
your comments through this list, or to me directly at engl@jonat.org.

    If you can't get something together by then, please just let me know.

    --  AND THERE's MORE ---

    Perhaps also you can update me on the planning you have done, any
committee setups, etc.

    As a final request, if anyone is planning on attending the Vandusen All
British Field Meet in Vancouver next month, perhaps we could get together
for brief introduction and discussions (over breakfast / lunch / dinner / or
a pint).  If you are planning on attending, please let me know.

    Bob England
    www.jonat.org

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>The gruelling, up =
to the minute=20
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(That's my=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>On the schedule, =
there is three=20
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itinerary=20
at</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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href=3D"http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Itinerary.pdf">http://jonat.org/bob/JO=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>are unspoken for =
days.&nbsp; I=20
have left in as a float in case any Sector upstream of you (or your =
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itself for that matter) needs them.&nbsp; My pink note might not be very =
clear,=20
but the intent is if anyone upstream needs them, they would be given the =
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itinerary.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>Right now we have =
two points on=20
the Tour that are linking with pre-planned events.&nbsp; One in your =
Sector, and=20
one in Phoenix.&nbsp; This means we have to be quite disciplined in our =
time per=20
Sector scheduling.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT=20
size=3D2>You can see that it is therefore important that everyone needs =
to=20
have&nbsp;in place the number of days to cross their sector in place =
soon, so=20
everyone downstream of them knows the actual dates of the Tour in their =
area.=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>I hope this is a =
little more=20
clear (as mud I suppose!).&nbsp; I guess what I need to stress is that =
all=20
Sectors need to be de-gruellified, and also the times to traverse the =
Sectors=20
need to be set in the not to distant future.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D541195513-18042003><FONT size=3D2>Bob =
England</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
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  [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dr Gregory=20
  Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> April 17, 2003 6:46 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Cc:</B> Doug Ingram; David and Barbara =
Cooke; Roy=20
  Gill<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE =

  NOTE<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob: regarding the Victoria-Vancouver =
segment:=20
  the routing is fine, but the times and schedule present a grueling, =
cruel and=20
  unusual punishment.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;It is my =
understanding=20
  that the participants would have several days in this area, from the =
16th of=20
  May to the 22nd (for the Van Dusen show). Furthermore, the actual =
directions=20
  given within the cities are bizarre and will have to be changed. So: =
the route=20
  is fine, but we are working here under the assumption that there will =
be a few=20
  days at least in this area. It is not possible, for example, to leave =
Whistler=20
  in the morning and to be on the Van Dusen field in time for the show. =
People=20
  must be in Vancouver the night before. If the timing is not the issue =
right=20
  now, but only the route, then the general route is fine. We have been =
working=20
  on optional daytrips around this area (well worth doing: the wine =
country,=20
  over to the wild Pacific at Tofino, etc). No one is going to want to =
drive day=20
  after day. Comment?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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  Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=3Dengl@jonat.org href=3D"mailto:engl@jonat.org">Bob</A> =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 17, =
2003 5:05=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR =

    COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>Hello guys =
!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>Lest you relax too much this long =
weekend,=20
    perhaps I could ask a favour (or two).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>&nbsp;I would like you all to =
check out the=20
    route map for your sector at</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Maps-Main.htm">http://jonat.org/bob/JO=
NAT_Maps-Main.htm</A></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003>and update me =
with your=20
    comments by Saturday or Sunday.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>If you don't have a map there, =
please get me=20
    at least a preliminary route.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>If you do have a map there, please =
update me=20
    with your comments and/or route changes ("No changes" is an =
acceptable=20
    comment).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>I would like to get your comments =
by Saturday=20
    or Sunday.&nbsp; Either send your comments through this list, or to =
me=20
    directly at <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:engl@jonat.org">engl@jonat.org</A>.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></=
DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>If you can't get something =
together by then,=20
    please just let me know.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>--&nbsp; AND THERE's MORE=20
    ---</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>Perhaps also you can update me on =
the planning=20
    you have done, any committee setups, etc.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D445115223-17042003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>As a final request, if anyone is =
planning on=20
    attending the Vandusen All British Field Meet in Vancouver next =
month,=20
    perhaps we could get together for&nbsp;brief introduction and =
discussions=20
    (over breakfast / lunch / dinner / or a pint).&nbsp; If you are =
planning on=20
    attending, please let me know.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>Bob =
England</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN class=3D445115223-17042003><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><A=20
    =
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