[JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE

Dr Gregory Andrachuk jonat@autox.team.net
Fri Apr 18 10:05:02 2003


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Bob: thanks for the clarification, and I would just like to point out that the Vancouver section *must* coincide with the Van Dusen show on Saturday the 22 of May; cars will have to be IN Vancouver the night before, or very close by to be on the field before 10 AM. In addition this is the Victoria Day weekend in Canada, so the entry to Vancouver should be done BY Friday (Friday evening will be a worse than usual traffic period). Monday the 24th is actually Victoria Day (ie, a remembrance of Queen Victoria's birthday), but we should be on our way to Penticton by then, and there won't be any real problem.
    But we here have to know dates from the Seattle sector fairly soon.
                                                        Gregory
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  From: Bob 
  To: jonat@autox.team.net 
  Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:12 AM
  Subject: RE: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE


  Gregory

  The gruelling, up to the minute schedule, is set by the computer and is a little retentive.  (That's my story and I'm sticking to it!).  It may be gruelling, but I'll leave you and your team to de-gruelize it - keep in mind it's only a starting point for discussion.

  On the schedule, there is three days for sure in your sector.  You will see the pink days on the itinerary at
  http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Itinerary.pdf
  are unspoken for days.  I have left in as a float in case any Sector upstream of you (or your Sector itself for that matter) needs them.  My pink note might not be very clear, but the intent is if anyone upstream needs them, they would be given the extra day, and that means one less pink day in your area on the itinerary.

  Right now we have two points on the Tour that are linking with pre-planned events.  One in your Sector, and one in Phoenix.  This means we have to be quite disciplined in our time per Sector scheduling.  You can see that it is therefore important that everyone needs to have in place the number of days to cross their sector in place soon, so everyone downstream of them knows the actual dates of the Tour in their area. 

  I hope this is a little more clear (as mud I suppose!).  I guess what I need to stress is that all Sectors need to be de-gruellified, and also the times to traverse the Sectors need to be set in the not to distant future.

  Bob England

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    From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
    Sent: April 17, 2003 6:46 PM
    To: jonat@autox.team.net
    Cc: Doug Ingram; David and Barbara Cooke; Roy Gill
    Subject: Re: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE


    Bob: regarding the Victoria-Vancouver segment: the routing is fine, but the times and schedule present a grueling, cruel and unusual punishment.
         It is my understanding that the participants would have several days in this area, from the 16th of May to the 22nd (for the Van Dusen show). Furthermore, the actual directions given within the cities are bizarre and will have to be changed. So: the route is fine, but we are working here under the assumption that there will be a few days at least in this area. It is not possible, for example, to leave Whistler in the morning and to be on the Van Dusen field in time for the show. People must be in Vancouver the night before. If the timing is not the issue right now, but only the route, then the general route is fine. We have been working on optional daytrips around this area (well worth doing: the wine country, over to the wild Pacific at Tofino, etc). No one is going to want to drive day after day. Comment?
                                            Gregory
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      From: Bob 
      To: jonat@autox.team.net 
      Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:05 PM
      Subject: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE


      Hello guys !

      Lest you relax too much this long weekend, perhaps I could ask a favour (or two).

       I would like you all to check out the route map for your sector at
      http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Maps-Main.htm
      and update me with your comments by Saturday or Sunday.

      If you don't have a map there, please get me at least a preliminary route.

      If you do have a map there, please update me with your comments and/or route changes ("No changes" is an acceptable comment).

      I would like to get your comments by Saturday or Sunday.  Either send your comments through this list, or to me directly at engl@jonat.org.

      If you can't get something together by then, please just let me know.

      --  AND THERE's MORE ---

      Perhaps also you can update me on the planning you have done, any committee setups, etc.

      As a final request, if anyone is planning on attending the Vandusen All British Field Meet in Vancouver next month, perhaps we could get together for brief introduction and discussions (over breakfast / lunch / dinner / or a pint).  If you are planning on attending, please let me know.

      Bob England
      www.jonat.org

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob: thanks for the clarification, and I would just 
like to point out that the Vancouver section *must* coincide with the Van Dusen 
show on Saturday the 22 of May; cars will have to be IN Vancouver the night 
before, or very close by to be on the field before 10 AM. In addition this is 
the Victoria Day weekend in Canada, so the entry to Vancouver should be done BY 
Friday (Friday evening will be a worse than usual traffic period). Monday the 
24th is actually Victoria Day (ie, a remembrance of Queen Victoria's birthday), 
but we should be on our way to Penticton by then, and there won't be any real 
problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But we here have to know dates 
from the Seattle sector fairly soon.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=engl@jonat.org href="mailto:engl@jonat.org">Bob</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
  href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2003 7:12 
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR 
  COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2>Gregory</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2>The gruelling, up to the 
  minute schedule, is set by the computer and is a little retentive.&nbsp; 
  (That's my story and I'm sticking to it!).&nbsp; It may be gruelling, but I'll 
  leave you and your team to de-gruelize it - keep in mind it's only a starting 
  point for discussion.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2>On the schedule, there is 
  three days for sure in your sector.&nbsp; You will see the pink days on the 
  itinerary at</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2><A 
  href="http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Itinerary.pdf">http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Itinerary.pdf</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2>are unspoken for days.&nbsp; 
  I have left in as a float in case any Sector upstream of you (or your Sector 
  itself for that matter) needs them.&nbsp; My pink note might not be very 
  clear, but the intent is if anyone upstream needs them, they would be given 
  the extra day, and that means one less pink day in your area on the 
  itinerary.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2>Right now we have two points 
  on the Tour that are linking with pre-planned events.&nbsp; One in your 
  Sector, and one in Phoenix.&nbsp; This means we have to be quite disciplined 
  in our time per Sector scheduling.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
  class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2>You can see that it is therefore 
  important that everyone needs to have&nbsp;in place the number of days to 
  cross their sector in place soon, so everyone downstream of them knows the 
  actual dates of the Tour in their area. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2>I hope this is a little more 
  clear (as mud I suppose!).&nbsp; I guess what I need to stress is that all 
  Sectors need to be de-gruellified, and also the times to traverse the Sectors 
  need to be set in the not to distant future.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2>Bob 
  England</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=541195513-18042003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> jonat-admin@autox.team.net 
    [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dr Gregory 
    Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> April 17, 2003 6:46 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
    jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Cc:</B> Doug Ingram; David and Barbara Cooke; Roy 
    Gill<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR COORDINATORS - PLEASE 
    NOTE<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob: regarding the Victoria-Vancouver segment: 
    the routing is fine, but the times and schedule present a grueling, cruel 
    and unusual punishment.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;It is my understanding 
    that the participants would have several days in this area, from the 16th of 
    May to the 22nd (for the Van Dusen show). Furthermore, the actual directions 
    given within the cities are bizarre and will have to be changed. So: the 
    route is fine, but we are working here under the assumption that there will 
    be a few days at least in this area. It is not possible, for example, to 
    leave Whistler in the morning and to be on the Van Dusen field in time for 
    the show. People must be in Vancouver the night before. If the timing is not 
    the issue right now, but only the route, then the general route is fine. We 
    have been working on optional daytrips around this area (well worth doing: 
    the wine country, over to the wild Pacific at Tofino, etc). No one is going 
    to want to drive day after day. Comment?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A title=engl@jonat.org href="mailto:engl@jonat.org">Bob</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
      href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 17, 2003 5:05 
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] JONAT SECTOR 
      COORDINATORS - PLEASE NOTE</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>Hello guys !</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>Lest you relax too much this long weekend, 
      perhaps I could ask a favour (or two).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>&nbsp;I would like you all to check out the 
      route map for your sector at</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2><A 
      href="http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Maps-Main.htm">http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_Maps-Main.htm</A></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=445115223-17042003>and update me with your 
      comments by Saturday or Sunday.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>If you don't have a map there, please get me 
      at least a preliminary route.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>If you do have a map there, please update me 
      with your comments and/or route changes ("No changes" is an acceptable 
      comment).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>I would like to get your comments by 
      Saturday or Sunday.&nbsp; Either send your comments through this list, or 
      to me directly at <A 
      href="mailto:engl@jonat.org">engl@jonat.org</A>.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>If you can't get something together by then, 
      please just let me know.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>--&nbsp; AND THERE's MORE 
      ---</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>Perhaps also you can update me on the 
      planning you have done, any committee setups, 
      etc.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN 
      class=445115223-17042003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>As a final request, if anyone is planning on 
      attending the Vandusen All British Field Meet in Vancouver next month, 
      perhaps we could get together for&nbsp;brief introduction and discussions 
      (over breakfast / lunch / dinner / or a pint).&nbsp; If you are planning 
      on attending, please let me know.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2>Bob England</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=445115223-17042003><FONT 
      face="Times New Roman" size=2><A 
      href="http://www.jonat.org">www.jonat.org</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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