[JONAT] RE: FYI

Wed Dec 3 21:39:01 2003

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Mike: I agree completely. The more complicated this becomes, the less fun it is. The more expensive we make this, the fewer will participate. There are hotel fees, meals, etc. that every participant must count on. Hotel reates will vary widely. In Victoria it will be $129 Canadian (that is about $100 US) - one reason I wanted a shorter stay here.
    JONAT should be charging only the absolute minimum needed. Let the participant loook after his own car (with appropriate guidance for service etc. from sector coordinators). If we go much further along this road we will be asking for a fee for health insurance too. Come to think of it, each participant, if travelling out of his own area, should arrange for out of province or out of country health insurance; that is especially important for Canadian travelling in the US.
    So on the registration page, perhaps we should have a list of very strong recommendations: 1) proper preparation of the cars: coolant hoses, fuel hoses, etc.,  2)CAA/AAA membership in case of breakdown, 3) extra health insurance 4) what else?
                                Gregory 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike O'Brien 
  To: jonat@autox.team.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

   It seems complicated to administer with two separate fees.Will the sector fees be rationalized so that there is little if any variation?. Someone who drives six or seven sectors or even all of them may run into wildly varying costs depending on how complex the arrangements are for the sector. 

  If the CAA/AAA offer a discounted short membership will it come from the overall fee? What about those who already have CAA/AAA coverage-will that mean two possible overall fees?

  This is a nightmare. I suggest that if a participant has their head screwed on and their car may suffer a dilemma it would be prudent that they have their own coverage. 

  We should restrict charges to participants to those things that are absolutely essential for the group and can only be arranged by the sectors or national leadership:

  Insurance to cover all our liability
  Advertising(where it will gain us sponsors)
  Printing of critical information for participants
  and   ???????

  Mike

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Mike O'Brien
Ottawa Sector Coordinator
Jaguar Owner's North America Tour (Jonat)
http://www.jonat.org 

  Bob wrote:

Mike

I think we will see a Tour registration fee, and a Sector registration fee.
That is, a Tour registration fee to cover overall Tour related costs
(insurance, perhaps grille badges, etc.) and a Sector registration fee to
cover maps, events, and the like.  No fees have been set yet (as far as I
know).

Any other thoughts on this?

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: December 3, 2003 6:24 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

I am prepared to approach CAA headquarters in Ottawa but I am not up to
speed on  registration. Are we talking about one  fee for the entire
tour, one fee for each sector or what? And if any of the above apply
what amount has been set and to whom is it paid?

--
Mike O'Brien
Ottawa Sector Coordinator
Jaguar Owner's North America Tour (Jonat)
http://www.jonat.org

Bob wrote:

This would be a great idea ... we might offer a small degree of free
advertising with this.  Does anyone have any contacts with AAA or CAA ?

Bob England

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From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Robert MacLeay
Sent: November 29, 2003 10:40 PM
To: JONAT list
Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

A thought about repairs:

It would be nice to be able to offer free AAA emergency service with
paid registration, for the duration of the tour.

Anyone care to offer to negotiate with them (and their Canadian
counterpart, CAA) on behalf of the group?

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike: I agree completely. The more complicated this 
becomes, the less fun it is. The more expensive we make this, the fewer will 
participate. There are hotel fees, meals, etc. that every participant must count 
on. Hotel reates will vary widely. In Victoria it will be $129 Canadian (that is 
about $100 US) - one reason I wanted a shorter stay here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; JONAT should be charging only 
the absolute minimum needed. Let the participant loook after his own car (with 
appropriate guidance for service etc. from sector coordinators). If we go much 
further along this road we will be asking for a fee for health insurance too. 
Come to think of it, each participant, if travelling out of his own area, should 
arrange for out of province or out of country health insurance; that is 
especially important for Canadian travelling in the US.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So on the registration page, 
perhaps we should have a list of very strong recommendations: 1) proper 
preparation of the cars: coolant hoses, fuel hoses, etc.,&nbsp; 2)CAA/AAA 
membership in case of breakdown, 3) extra health insurance 4) what 
else?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gregory</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=mikeob@jonat.org href="mailto:mikeob@jonat.org">Mike O'Brien</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
  href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:09 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;It seems complicated to administer with two separate 
  fees.Will the sector fees be rationalized so that there is little if any 
  variation?. Someone who drives six or seven sectors or even all of them may 
  run into wildly varying costs depending on how complex the arrangements are 
  for the sector. <BR><BR>If the CAA/AAA offer a discounted short membership 
  will it come from the overall fee? What about those who already have CAA/AAA 
  coverage-will that mean two possible overall fees?<BR><BR>This is a nightmare. 
  I suggest that if a participant has their head screwed on and their car may 
  suffer a dilemma it would be prudent that they have their own coverage. 
  <BR><BR>We should restrict charges to participants to those things that are 
  absolutely essential for the group and can only be arranged by the sectors or 
  national leadership:<BR><BR>Insurance to cover all our 
  liability<BR>Advertising(where it will gain us sponsors)<BR>Printing of 
  critical information for participants<BR>and&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  ???????<BR><BR>Mike<BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">-- 
Mike O'Brien
Ottawa Sector Coordinator
Jaguar Owner's North America Tour (Jonat)
<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.jonat.org">http://www.jonat.org</A> </PRE><BR>Bob 
  wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=midAIEKJFGJMEEHHMGNJOMKKEGKCMAA.engl@accesscomm.ca 
  type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Mike