[JONAT] RE: FYI

Thu Dec 4 06:54:01 2003

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Gregory ... I like your last idea ... any volunteers to put together such a
list? ... I'll put it on the webpages ...

Bob England

 -----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: December 3, 2003 10:35 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

Mike: I agree completely. The more complicated this becomes, the less fun it
is. The more expensive we make this, the fewer will participate. There are
hotel fees, meals, etc. that every participant must count on. Hotel reates
will vary widely. In Victoria it will be $129 Canadian (that is about $100
US) - one reason I wanted a shorter stay here.
    JONAT should be charging only the absolute minimum needed. Let the
participant loook after his own car (with appropriate guidance for service
etc. from sector coordinators). If we go much further along this road we
will be asking for a fee for health insurance too. Come to think of it, each
participant, if travelling out of his own area, should arrange for out of
province or out of country health insurance; that is especially important
for Canadian travelling in the US.
    So on the registration page, perhaps we should have a list of very
strong recommendations: 1) proper preparation of the cars: coolant hoses,
fuel hoses, etc.,  2)CAA/AAA membership in case of breakdown, 3) extra
health insurance 4) what else?
                                Gregory

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Mike O'Brien
  To: jonat@autox.team.net
  Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

   It seems complicated to administer with two separate fees.Will the sector
fees be rationalized so that there is little if any variation?. Someone who
drives six or seven sectors or even all of them may run into wildly varying
costs depending on how complex the arrangements are for the sector.

  If the CAA/AAA offer a discounted short membership will it come from the
overall fee? What about those who already have CAA/AAA coverage-will that
mean two possible overall fees?

  This is a nightmare. I suggest that if a participant has their head
screwed on and their car may suffer a dilemma it would be prudent that they
have their own coverage.

  We should restrict charges to participants to those things that are
absolutely essential for the group and can only be arranged by the sectors
or national leadership:

  Insurance to cover all our liability
  Advertising(where it will gain us sponsors)
  Printing of critical information for participants
  and   ???????

  Mike

--
Mike O'Brien
Ottawa Sector Coordinator
Jaguar Owner's North America Tour (Jonat)
http://www.jonat.org
  Bob wrote:

Mike

I think we will see a Tour registration fee, and a Sector registration fee.
That is, a Tour registration fee to cover overall Tour related costs
(insurance, perhaps grille badges, etc.) and a Sector registration fee to
cover maps, events, and the like.  No fees have been set yet (as far as I
know).

Any other thoughts on this?

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: December 3, 2003 6:24 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

I am prepared to approach CAA headquarters in Ottawa but I am not up to
speed on  registration. Are we talking about one  fee for the entire
tour, one fee for each sector or what? And if any of the above apply
what amount has been set and to whom is it paid?

--
Mike O'Brien
Ottawa Sector Coordinator
Jaguar Owner's North America Tour (Jonat)
http://www.jonat.org

Bob wrote:

  This would be a great idea ... we might offer a small degree of free
advertising with this.  Does anyone have any contacts with AAA or CAA ?

Bob England

 -----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Robert MacLeay
Sent: November 29, 2003 10:40 PM
To: JONAT list
Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

A thought about repairs:

It would be nice to be able to offer free AAA emergency service with
paid registration, for the duration of the tour.

Anyone care to offer to negotiate with them (and their Canadian
counterpart, CAA) on behalf of the group?

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike: I agree completely. The more =
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on. Hotel reates will vary widely. In Victoria it will be $129 Canadian =
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about $100 US) - one reason I wanted a shorter stay here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; JONAT should be =
charging only=20
the absolute minimum needed. Let the participant loook after his own car =
(with=20
appropriate guidance for service etc. from sector coordinators). If we =
go much=20
further along this road we will be asking for a fee for health insurance =
too.=20
Come to think of it, each participant, if travelling out of his own =
area, should=20
arrange for out of province or out of country health insurance; that is=20
especially important for Canadian travelling in the US.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So on the =
registration page,=20
perhaps we should have a list of very strong recommendations: 1) proper=20
preparation of the cars: coolant hoses, fuel hoses, etc.,&nbsp; =
2)CAA/AAA=20
membership in case of breakdown, 3) extra health insurance 4) what=20
else?</FONT></DIV>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gregory</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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2003 7:09=20
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FYI</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;It seems complicated to administer with two =
separate=20
  fees.Will the sector fees be rationalized so that there is little if =
any=20
  variation?. Someone who drives six or seven sectors or even all of =
them may=20
  run into wildly varying costs depending on how complex the =
arrangements are=20
  for the sector. <BR><BR>If the CAA/AAA offer a discounted short =
membership=20
  will it come from the overall fee? What about those who already have =
CAA/AAA=20
  coverage-will that mean two possible overall fees?<BR><BR>This is a =
nightmare.=20
  I suggest that if a participant has their head screwed on and their =
car may=20
  suffer a dilemma it would be prudent that they have their own =
coverage.=20
  <BR><BR>We should restrict charges to participants to those things =
that are=20
  absolutely essential for the group and can only be arranged by the =
sectors or=20
  national leadership:<BR><BR>Insurance to cover all our=20
  liability<BR>Advertising(where it will gain us sponsors)<BR>Printing =
of=20
  critical information for participants<BR>and&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  ???????<BR><BR>Mike<BR><PRE class=3Dmoz-signature cols=3D"72">--=20
Mike O'Brien
Ottawa Sector Coordinator
Jaguar Owner's North America Tour (Jonat)
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext =
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org">http://www.jonat.org</A> </PRE><BR>Bob=20
  wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3DmidAIEKJFGJMEEHHMGNJOMKKEGKCMAA.engl@accesscomm.ca=20
  type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Mike

I think we will see a Tour registration fee, and a Sector registration =
fee.
That is, a Tour registration fee to cover overall Tour related costs
(insurance, perhaps grille badges, etc.) and a Sector registration fee =
to
cover maps, events, and the like.  No fees have been set yet (as far as =
I
know).