[JONAT] RE: FYI

Thu Dec 4 07:11:01 2003

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Mark ... not only the EC, but the SC's too ... I'll talk to Jamie and Fazal
about this and see if we can develop a plan ...

Bob

 -----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Brad Preiss
Sent: December 4, 2003 1:07 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [JONAT] RE: FYI

WOW - and I got lambasted for the idea of a simple conference call -
funny... isn't it?

Bob - I think the executive committee needs to have a con call - ASAP - set
a fee - and that's that.

Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:35 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

  Mike: I agree completely. The more complicated this becomes, the less fun
it is. The more expensive we make this, the fewer will participate. There
are hotel fees, meals, etc. that every participant must count on. Hotel
reates will vary widely. In Victoria it will be $129 Canadian (that is about
$100 US) - one reason I wanted a shorter stay here.
      JONAT should be charging only the absolute minimum needed. Let the
participant loook after his own car (with appropriate guidance for service
etc. from sector coordinators). If we go much further along this road we
will be asking for a fee for health insurance too. Come to think of it, each
participant, if travelling out of his own area, should arrange for out of
province or out of country health insurance; that is especially important
for Canadian travelling in the US.
      So on the registration page, perhaps we should have a list of very
strong recommendations: 1) proper preparation of the cars: coolant hoses,
fuel hoses, etc.,  2)CAA/AAA membership in case of breakdown, 3) extra
health insurance 4) what else?
                                  Gregory

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Mike O'Brien
    To: jonat@autox.team.net
    Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:09 PM
    Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

     It seems complicated to administer with two separate fees.Will the
sector fees be rationalized so that there is little if any variation?.
Someone who drives six or seven sectors or even all of them may run into
wildly varying costs depending on how complex the arrangements are for the
sector.

    If the CAA/AAA offer a discounted short membership will it come from the
overall fee? What about those who already have CAA/AAA coverage-will that
mean two possible overall fees?

    This is a nightmare. I suggest that if a participant has their head
screwed on and their car may suffer a dilemma it would be prudent that they
have their own coverage.

    We should restrict charges to participants to those things that are
absolutely essential for the group and can only be arranged by the sectors
or national leadership:

    Insurance to cover all our liability
    Advertising(where it will gain us sponsors)
    Printing of critical information for participants
    and   ???????

    Mike

--
Mike O'Brien
Ottawa Sector Coordinator
Jaguar Owner's North America Tour (Jonat)
http://www.jonat.org
    Bob wrote:

Mike

I think we will see a Tour registration fee, and a Sector registration fee.
That is, a Tour registration fee to cover overall Tour related costs
(insurance, perhaps grille badges, etc.) and a Sector registration fee to
cover maps, events, and the like.  No fees have been set yet (as far as I
know).

Any other thoughts on this?

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: December 3, 2003 6:24 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

I am prepared to approach CAA headquarters in Ottawa but I am not up to
speed on  registration. Are we talking about one  fee for the entire
tour, one fee for each sector or what? And if any of the above apply
what amount has been set and to whom is it paid?

--
Mike O'Brien
Ottawa Sector Coordinator
Jaguar Owner's North America Tour (Jonat)
http://www.jonat.org

Bob wrote:

  This would be a great idea ... we might offer a small degree of free
advertising with this.  Does anyone have any contacts with AAA or CAA ?

Bob England

 -----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Robert MacLeay
Sent: November 29, 2003 10:40 PM
To: JONAT list
Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: FYI

A thought about repairs:

It would be nice to be able to offer free AAA emergency service with
paid registration, for the duration of the tour.

Anyone care to offer to negotiate with them (and their Canadian
counterpart, CAA) on behalf of the group?

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D980160307-04122003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Bob -=20
I think the executive committee needs to have a con call - ASAP - set a =
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and that's that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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</B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 03, 2003 =
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FYI<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike: I agree completely. The more =
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  will participate. There are hotel fees, meals, etc. that every =
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  must count on. Hotel reates will vary widely. In Victoria it will be =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; JONAT should be =
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  the absolute minimum needed. Let the participant loook after his own =
car (with=20
  appropriate guidance for service etc. from sector coordinators). If we =
go much=20
  further along this road we will be asking for a fee for health =
insurance too.=20
  Come to think of it, each participant, if travelling out of his own =
area,=20
  should arrange for out of province or out of country health insurance; =
that is=20
  especially important for Canadian travelling in the US.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So on the =
registration page,=20
  perhaps we should have a list of very strong recommendations: 1) =
proper=20
  preparation of the cars: coolant hoses, fuel hoses, etc.,&nbsp; =
2)CAA/AAA=20
  membership in case of breakdown, 3) extra health insurance 4) what=20
  else?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gregory</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <A title=3Dmikeob@jonat.org href=3D"mailto:mikeob@jonat.org">Mike =
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2003 7:09=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] RE: =
FYI</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;It seems complicated to administer with two =
separate=20
    fees.Will the sector fees be rationalized so that there is little if =
any=20
    variation?. Someone who drives six or seven sectors or even all of =
them may=20
    run into wildly varying costs depending on how complex the =
arrangements are=20
    for the sector. <BR><BR>If the CAA/AAA offer a discounted short =
membership=20
    will it come from the overall fee? What about those who already have =
CAA/AAA=20
    coverage-will that mean two possible overall fees?<BR><BR>This is a=20
    nightmare. I suggest that if a participant has their head screwed on =
and=20
    their car may suffer a dilemma it would be prudent that they have =
their own=20
    coverage. <BR><BR>We should restrict charges to participants to =
those things=20
    that are absolutely essential for the group and can only be arranged =
by the=20
    sectors or national leadership:<BR><BR>Insurance to cover all our=20
    liability<BR>Advertising(where it will gain us sponsors)<BR>Printing =
of=20
    critical information for participants<BR>and&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    ???????<BR><BR>Mike<BR><PRE class=3Dmoz-signature cols=3D"72">--=20
Mike O'Brien
Ottawa Sector Coordinator
Jaguar Owner's North America Tour (Jonat)
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-freetext =
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org">http://www.jonat.org</A> </PRE><BR>Bob=20
    wrote:<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE =
cite=3DmidAIEKJFGJMEEHHMGNJOMKKEGKCMAA.engl@accesscomm.ca=20
    type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Mike

I think we will see a Tour registration fee, and a Sector registration =
fee.
That is, a Tour registration fee to cover overall Tour related costs
(insurance, perhaps grille badges, etc.) and a Sector registration fee =
to
cover maps, events, and the like.  No fees have been set yet (as far as =
I
know).