[JONAT] RE: INSURANCE

[Dr Gregory Andrachuk]

Bob: another reason to keep it simple: a 100% disclaimer so the participant
acknowledges that he is *voluntarily* just one of a group of people using
the public roads at approximately the same time as others, and that he
accepts ALL risks associated with such an activity. Period. And no fees.
                                Gregory
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <engl@accesscomm.ca>
To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 6:50 AM
Subject: [JONAT] RE: INSURANCE


: Mark
:
: We are not incorporated, and the assets worth messing with are personal
: assets.  JONAT cannot help with legal bills as there would be no money to
: help with - back to our personal assets.  Unless someone can say "you
won't
: be sued", I think we should look at some sort of insurance or 100%
foolproof
: disclaimer.  Note that in no way am I an expert in this field, and am only
: speaking as a frightened-of-litigation lay person - in fact I hope I am
: wrong but it is an avenue we need to pursue.
:
: Bob
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
: Behalf Of Mark Stephenson
: Sent: December 6, 2003 1:47 AM
: To: jonat@autox.team.net
: Subject: RE: INSURANCE --> was --> RE: [JONAT] RE: FYI
:
:
: Actually they'd be suing JONAT which I believe is incorporated as a
: non-profit. We have no assets worth messing with, so it would be a waste
of
: time. They could try to sue individuals, but unless one of the defendants
: was totally negligent, it would be thrown out quickly. If one of us
screwed
: up royally, they would be on the hook, but the plaintiff would have to
prove
: there was an intent to cause harm or a complete lack of diligence in
: planning and execution.
:
: JONAT could help with the legal bills of an SC, but chances are they would
: be named in any suit brought against an SC, so what little money they have
: would be gone quick.
:
: Mark
:
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
: > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:06 PM
: > To: jonat@autox.team.net
: > Subject: INSURANCE --> was --> RE: [JONAT] RE: FYI
: >
: > I must be in "half empty" mode today, but who pays the legal
: > fees if some
: > nutbar does decide to sue?
: >
: > [optimist says the cup is half full - pessimist says the cup
: > is half empty -
: > engineer says the cup is too big ...]
: >
: > Bob
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
: > Behalf Of Mark Stephenson
: > Sent: December 5, 2003 10:54 AM
: > To: jonat@autox.team.net
: > Subject: RE: [JONAT] RE: FYI
: >
: >
: > Bob,
: >
: > I think with a proper number of disclaimers we'd have our
: > butts covered. Not
: > that that would stop anyone from suing. The plaintiff would
: > then have to
: > show that we either intentionally misdirected participants or didn't
: > exercise due diligence in setting up the route and book.
: >
: > Mark
: >
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