[JONAT] Fees and splitting them up.

[Dr Gregory Andrachuk]

Barry:  We will be following this procedure as well. Participants will be
responsible for themselves in everyway, except for finding their way around,
and finding resources. We will help with those things. And I am looking
forward to the wine tastings. We may set up something like that here on the
Island as well.
                                        Gregory
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry La Pointe" <bpointe@telus.net>
To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JONAT] Fees and splitting them up.


: Greg & Mark, I must be a man of simple needs, (as long as one of them is a
: V12 E Type). Hasn't anyone heard of "User Pay"? I will be keeping my
sector
: as simple as possible and applying the policy of "User Pay". This way you
: can do what you want, eat what and where you want and stay where you can
: afford. In addition to laying out the main route and an alternate thru my
: sector I will also be supplying names and rates of the local Hotels that
: respond, with one of them being the departure point as well as restaurants
: in the area. I will also be setting up pre-arranged "Wine Tasting" at a
: couple of the cottage wineries on the trip from Penticton to Vernon as
that
: is a short 100 KM trip. The tasting is free but you will pay for any
: purchases while there.I would hope that everyone insures both themselves
and
: their vehicles for any and all possible "illnesses". I intend to have
myself
: covered while in the USA. I know that we would like to cover any and all
: possibilities but this talk of liability and suing is starting to rattle
and
: unnerve me.
: ----- Original Message ----- Barry La Pointe
: Okanagan Sector Coordinator
: Jaguar North American Tour
: 1972 "E Type" V12
: www.jonat.org
: From: "Dr Gregory Andrachuk" <v12-vdp@shaw.ca>
: To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:02 AM
: Subject: Re: [JONAT] Fees and splitting them up.
:
:
: > Mark:
: >     You clever guy! The complications of this formula underline exactlly
: why
: > there should be no fee, and why this tour should not be over-organised.
: The
: > thought of dealing with this has me ready to run for the hills (in my
: > fastest Jaguar).
: >                                             Gregory
: > ----- Original Message -----
: > From: "Mark Stephenson" <marks@jonat.org>
: > To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
: > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:26 PM
: > Subject: [JONAT] Fees and splitting them up.
: >
: >
: > : While I vote against a JONAT fee, preferring instead the funds be
raised
: > : through memorabilia sales and sponsorships, if we decide to have one,
I
: > : don't think the second sector should cost the registrant who is doing
: only
: > : two, more than the first one. I think it should be $25 and $49.
: > :
: > : Here's another aspect of the JONAT fee I'm not sure was considered. I
: can
: > : see some SCs coming up with extravagant plans while other SCs keep it
: > : simple. If I'm one of the simple ones, I don't want to see all the
money
: I
: > : raised going to a sector on a spending spree. It would be fair to me
or
: > the
: > : people participating in my sector. Therefore, if we are going to
collect
: a
: > : JONAT fee, there should be a limit to what each sector can spend. I
: think
: > : that a very large percentage, in the vicinity of 75%, should be
: earmarked
: > : for the sectors each entrant has signed up for. For example, if I had
25
: > : people sign up for my sector, and five of them signed up for my sector
: > : alone, ten of them signed up for two sectors, five signed up for four
: > : sectors, and five signed up for the whole route, my sector would have
: been
: > : responsible for generating 25($s paid)x5(# paid) + 49($s paid)/2(split
: > among
: > : the # of sectors)x10(# paid) + 49/4x5 + 49/29(total # of sectors)x5 =
: > : $439.70 of revenue. If I received 75% of that, it would be $329.78.
: > : Sponsorships generated by me from within my area should likewise be
: split
: > : 75/25 between the sector and JONAT Central. Sponsorships obtained from
: > : outside the my area should be split 37.5/37.5/25 between my sector,
the
: > : sector closest to the sponsor, and HQ. That would be the budget within
: > which
: > : I'd have to work.
: > :
: > : Another aspect for this to be as even-handed as possible, sectors
should
: > be
: > : about the same length of time. A five-day sector has a lot more to
: spread
: > : out over than than a two-day one. If anyone is taking more than one
: sector
: > : and two or more are very short, we should consider combining them or
: > : adjusting the calculations based on the time of the sector. A
: spreadsheet
: > : listing the entrants and sponsors for each sector could have all these
: > : calculations embedded.
: > :
: > : If an event was scheduled at the hand-off point it would have to be
with
: > the
: > : mutual agreement of both SCs and the costs would be split evenly
unless
: > : otherwise agreed to by the two SCs.
: > :
: > : Money earmarked for each SC could be used to print the route guide,
: create
: > : mementos, subsidize the cost of a dinner, pay some or all of the
: entrance
: > : fees into a place of interest, etc. A full accounting of funds
expended
: > : would have to be made to JONAT Central and any unused funds or profits
: > : earned from the the sale of items bought with JONAT funds would have
to
: be
: > : returned. If the SC goes over budget, it comes out of the SC's pocket.
: > :
: > : That's my suggestion on how things should be divided up and run, if we
: > have
: > : a fee, which I oppose.
: > :
: > : Mark - AZ
: > :
: > : > -----Original Message-----
: > : > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
: > : > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jamie - JONAT
: > : > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:14 AM
: > : > To: jonat@autox.team.net
: > : > Subject: Fees; was -: [JONAT] RE: FYI
: > : >
: > : > Okay, on the fee thing ...
: > : >
: > : > I put forward for a vote at this point the following fees:
: > : >
: > : > $25.00    -    Single Sector
: > : > $55.00    -    Two of more Sectors
: > : >
: > : <snip>
: > :
: > :
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