[JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES
Jerry Mouton
jonat@autox.team.net
Tue May 6 23:28:01 2003
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I will try to have a structured route and stop plan, but of course=20
folks can take a different way. My only worry is when
wanderers come up with car problems and can't reach us, for
some reason. We can leave it to them, but I hope we will have
some mechanical assistance and parts available with the structured=20
group. And, we may not be able to get to some wide wanderers
without leaving the rest of the group at loose ends, so they
will have to be self-reliant wanderers. I don't think we can=20
guarantee to be there for them. =20
If we choose a less-structured
option, I believe we have to clearly tell folks the limits of our =
responsibilities=20
to those who take it. What will those limits be? What do we do if
someone fails to show up at an official checkpoint? Structured folks=20
can be located easily -- the others? Do we hold up the tour until the=20
stragglers are located? Do we arrange a possee to go scare them up?
I hope I can introduce out of towners to some little-known routes=20
here, but they will want to come along with the crowd to see them all.
Those in the structured group will be priviledged to strike awe and
wonder into the appreciative inhabitants of Northern California as
a glorious group.
Perhaps there could be some alternative structured paths to choose? =20
Jerry
Jerry Mouton "Laissez les bons temps =
rouler!"
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bob=20
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES
Just so I fully understand where this is going, the thought is to =
have, for each Sector, only two "official"stops: one at the very start, =
and one at the very end. Between these two official stops, we have two =
options for the participants: the first would be a little more =
structured with recommended evening stops and perhaps recommended stops =
for eats; the second would be to meet with the structured part of the =
Tour where they wish, except making sure they are at the beginning and =
end of each Sector.
Am I understanding this correctly? =20
My comments : to be honest I saw the Tour as a little more towards the =
structured end. This new less structured option will have definitely =
some appeal to a number of people, giving them more freedom. Others =
will appreciate camaraderie and organization of the structured option. =
And still others will choose structure some days, and freedom others. =
The idea has got me thinking a little more "out of the box".
I'd definitely like to hear comments from all the SC's and the =
International Coordinators as well on this, particularly those that are =
regular multi-day tour goers. Anyone have experience with a two =
structure type of tour?
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
-----Original Message-----
Sent: May 6, 2003 9:00 PM
Jamie: excellent! much better! This gives everyone a more relaxed =
pace, but still maintains a structure.
Gregory
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 7:58 PM
In view of Gregory's request (& the fact that the routing for =
Oregon & Washington didn't come out exactly the way I was thinking), I'm =
going to re-run those two Sectors and I'm planning on more evenly =
distributing the time versus days. I am now thinking that setting a =
stopping point each night is a bit anal and ludicrous. If we have a =
main starting point and time at the beginning and a main stopping point =
or gathering location at the end of a Sector (agreed to by the following =
Sector for their starting point), this should do the trick. Along the =
way we can of course have a "suggested route" with suggested stops of =
interest listed. These stops could be a regular listing on the main web =
page for that particular Sector (perhaps with their own maps showing =
how/where from the "suggested routing" and at what point to "divert". =
Along with the original idea of suggested lodging, eateries, fuel stops, =
mechanical services and parts, all these can feed from that web page.
Comments?
Jamie Duffey - Everett, WA
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will try to have a structured route =
and stop=20
plan, but of course </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>folks can take a different way. =
My only worry=20
is when</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>wanderers come up with car problems and =
can't reach=20
us, for</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>some reason. We can leave it to =
them, but I=20
hope we will have</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>some mechanical assistance and parts =
available with=20
the structured </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>group. And, we may not be able to =
get to some=20
wide wanderers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>without leaving the rest of the group =
at loose=20
ends, so they</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will have to be self-reliant =
wanderers. I=20
don't think we can </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>guarantee to be there for them. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If we choose a =
less-structured</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>option, I believe we have =
to clearly tell=20
folks the limits of our responsibilities </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to those who take it. What will =
those limits=20
be? What do we do if</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>someone fails to show up at an official =
checkpoint? Structured folks </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>can be located easily -- the =
others? Do we=20
hold up the tour until the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>stragglers are located? Do we =
arrange a=20
possee to go scare them up?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope I can introduce out of towners =
to some=20
little-known routes </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>here, but they will want to come along =
with the=20
crowd to see them all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Those in the structured group will be =
priviledged=20
to strike awe and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>wonder into the appreciative =
inhabitants of=20
Northern California as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a glorious group.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Perhaps there could be some alternative =
structured=20
paths to choose? </FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Jerry=20
Mouton &=
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"Laissez les bons temps rouler!"</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 06, 2003 =
9:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] SECTOR =
ROUTES</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D851324204-07052003><FONT size=3D2>Just so I fully =
understand=20
where this is going, the thought is to have, for each Sector, only two =
"official"stops: one at the very start, and one at the very end. =
Between=20
these two official stops, we have two options for the participants: =
the first=20
would be a little more structured with recommended evening stops and =
perhaps=20
recommended stops for eats; the second would be to meet with the =
structured=20
part of the Tour where they wish, except making sure they are at the =
beginning=20
and end of each Sector.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D851324204-07052003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D851324204-07052003><FONT size=3D2>Am I =
understanding this=20
correctly? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D851324204-07052003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D851324204-07052003><FONT size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D851324204-07052003><FONT size=3D2>My comments : to =
be honest I=20
saw the Tour as a little more towards the structured end. This =
new less=20
structured option will have definitely some appeal to a number of =
people,=20
giving them more freedom. Others will appreciate =
camaraderie and=20
organization of the structured option. And still =
others will=20
choose structure some days, and freedom others. The idea has got =
me=20
thinking a little more "out of the box".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D851324204-07052003><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D851324204-07052003><FONT size=3D2>I'd definitely =
like to hear=20
comments from all the SC's and the International Coordinators as well =
on this,=20
particularly those that are regular multi-day tour goers. Anyone =
have=20
experience with a two structure type of tour?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob England<BR>'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar =
Owner's=20
North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route Coordinator<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/">http://www.jonat.org</A></DIV></FONT>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>Sent:</B> May 6, 2003 9:00 =
PM<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jamie: excellent! much better! This =
gives=20
everyone a more relaxed pace, but still maintains a =
structure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
=20
=
=20
Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 06, 2003 =
7:58=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In view of Gregory's request =
(& the fact=20
that the routing for Oregon & Washington didn't come out =
exactly the=20
way I was thinking), I'm going to re-run those two Sectors and I'm =
planning on more evenly distributing the time versus days. I =
am now=20
thinking that setting a stopping point each night is a bit anal =
and=20
ludicrous. If we have a main starting point and time at the=20
beginning and a main stopping point or gathering location at the =
end of a=20
Sector (agreed to by the following Sector for their starting =
point), this=20
should do the trick. Along the way we can of course have a=20
"suggested route" with suggested stops of interest listed. =
These=20
stops could be a regular listing on the main web page for =
that=20
particular Sector (perhaps with their own maps showing how/where =
from the=20
"suggested routing" and at what point to "divert". Along =
with the=20
original idea of suggested lodging, eateries, fuel stops, =
mechanical=20
services and parts, all these can feed from that web =
page.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Comments?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Jamie Duffey - Everett,=20
WA</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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