[JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES
Dr Gregory Andrachuk
jonat@autox.team.net
Wed May 7 10:37:01 2003
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Jerry: you are absolutely right, accidents do happen, and sadly, some people expect others to pay for their mistakes and lack of prudence. You are right on the mark again when you say that the participants should sign a release form.
Gregory
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From: Jerry Mouton
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES
Gregory,
My point is that in real life, those limits are sometimes set by the
judge and jury after the fact. No way to avoid that completely.
But by making the limits clear, and having the participants sign a
legal agreement that they understand our limits, we make it less
likely. So we need this discussion to clarify what our responsibilities
should be, and then defining the agreement.
Jerry
Jerry Mouton "Laissez les bons temps rouler!"
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr Gregory Andrachuk
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES
We are not police, nor minders, nor baby-sitters, nor even tour guides in the snese of shepherding people from one spot to another, counting heads and so on. If this is what is expected of the SC's, I would like to know the limits of our responsibilities now. Some of us may not feel we can or should have such responsibilities.
Gregory
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Mouton
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES
Subhead
"Family sues organizers for negligence"
After all, you'll be dealing with US Citizens ; -)
Jerry Mouton "Laissez les bons temps rouler!"
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry: you are absolutely right, accidents do
happen, and sadly, some people expect others to pay for their mistakes and
lack of prudence. You are right on the mark again when you say that the
participants should sign a release form.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jerry@moutons.org href="mailto:jerry@moutons.org">Jerry Mouton</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:19
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gregory,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My point is that in real life, those limits are
sometimes set by the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>judge and jury after the fact. No way to
avoid that completely.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But by making the limits clear, and having the
participants sign a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>legal agreement that they understand our limits,
we make it less</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>likely. So we need this discussion to
clarify what our responsibilities</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>should be, and then defining the
agreement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Jerry
Mouton
"Laissez les bons temps rouler!"</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=v12-vdp@shaw.ca href="mailto:v12-vdp@shaw.ca">Dr Gregory
Andrachuk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net
href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:04
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] SECTOR
ROUTES</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We are not police, nor minders, nor
baby-sitters, nor even tour guides in the snese of shepherding people from
one spot to another, counting heads and so on. If this is what is expected
of the SC's, I would like to know the limits of our
responsibilitie</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>s now. Some of us may not feel
we can or should have such responsibilities.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
Gregory</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jerry@moutons.org href="mailto:jerry@moutons.org">Jerry
Mouton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net
href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] SECTOR
ROUTES</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subhead </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Family sues organizers for
negligence"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After all, you'll be dealing with US Citizens
; -)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Jerry
Mouton
"Laissez les bons temps rouler!"</DIV>
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