[JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES

Dr Gregory Andrachuk jonat@autox.team.net
Thu May 8 00:24:00 2003


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MessageBut Mark, since people are going to want to do different things along the route, I don't see how or why we would have a follow-up vehicle. This is not our idea here, for sure. It isn't like a cycle tour where you have twenty people riding in a group, or is it? There won't be any "final vehicle"  of "all the participants" to follow. Our idea is that you give them the route maps, suggestions for eating, hotels, garages, an emergency number, and send them on their way; naturally most or many, will travel together, so there will be a de facto "group", but there will be people who want to go ahead, turn off, stay behind, drive more slowly, etc.
                                        Gregory  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Stephenson 
  To: jonat@autox.team.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:01 PM
  Subject: RE: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES


  I agree with what I think was the foregoing.

  There is a route, and the SC should have either a sag wagon or a trailing vehicle that will follow the proscribed route behind all the participants. It is the responsibility of the participant to have sufficient maps and equipment on board to follow the route. If someone decides to strike out on their own and take a different route, or fails to follow the directions, they are on their own, IMHO.

  We can't babysit everyone.

  Mark Stephenson, Sector Coordinator - Arizona
  Jaguar Owners North American Tour (www.jonat.org)
  April 15 - July 4, 2004
  Visit the Pub for route discussions 

    -----Original Message-----
    From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
    Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 6:34 PM
    To: jonat@autox.team.net
    Subject: RE: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES


    Gregory

    I liken the SC's coordinator's responsibilities to organizing a tour of friends through their province / state, showing them the highlights (or, per recent discussion, allowing them to go strike out on their own).  Plan a route with some nice spots to see, eat, and sleep, and perhaps a  gathering or two along the way.  Those who strike out on their own are pretty much on their own, except for perhaps some emergency phone numbers.

    Each Sector will have its own flavour as set by the organizing committee.  As a group, we have to agree to a minimum set of standards only, as well as to get some financial, legal, and insurance issues tied down to get rid of legal worries for the organizers.

    I have a hunch some Sectors will be quite structured, and others much less so.  THAT freedom and variance is what will make our Tour quite unique.
    Bob England
    '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
    Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
    Route Coordinator
    http://www.jonat.org

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      Sent: May 7, 2003 10:05 AM


      We are not police, nor minders, nor baby-sitters, nor even tour guides in the snese of shepherding people from one spot to another, counting heads and so on. If this is what is expected of the SC's, I would like to know the limits of our responsibilities now. Some of us may not feel we can or should have such responsibilities.
                                          Gregory


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But Mark, since people are going to want to do 
different things along the route, I don't see how or why we would have a 
follow-up vehicle. This is not our idea here, for sure. It isn't like a cycle 
tour where you have twenty people riding in a group, or is it? There won't be 
any "final vehicle"&nbsp; of "all the participants" to follow. Our idea is that 
you give them the route maps, suggestions for eating, hotels, garages, an 
emergency number, and send them on their way; naturally most or many, will 
travel together, so there will be a de facto "group", but there will&nbsp;be 
people who want to go ahead, turn off, stay behind, drive more slowly, 
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Gregory&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=marks@jonat.org href="mailto:marks@jonat.org">Mark Stephenson</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:01 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2>I agree with what I think was 
  the foregoing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2>There is a route, 
  and&nbsp;the SC should have either&nbsp;a sag wagon or a trailing vehicle 
  that&nbsp;will follow the proscribed route behind all the participants. It is 
  the responsibility of the participant to have sufficient maps and equipment on 
  board to follow the route. If someone decides to strike out on their own and 
  take a different route, or fails to follow the directions, they are on their 
  own, IMHO.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2>We can't babysit 
  everyone.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <P><FONT size=2>Mark Stephenson, Sector Coordinator - Arizona<BR>Jaguar Owners 
  North American Tour (www.jonat.org)<BR>April 15 - July 4, 2004<BR>Visit the 
  Pub for route discussions </FONT></P></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf 
    Of </B>Bob<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 07, 2003 6:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
    jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] SECTOR 
    ROUTES<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2>Gregory</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2>I liken&nbsp;the SC's 
    coordinator's responsibilities to organizing a tour of friends through their 
    province / state, showing them the highlights (or, per recent discussion, 
    allowing them to go strike out on their own).&nbsp; Plan a route with some 
    nice spots to see, eat, and sleep, and perhaps a&nbsp; gathering or two 
    along the way.&nbsp; Those who strike out on their own are pretty much on 
    their own, except for perhaps some emergency phone 
    numbers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2>Each Sector will have its 
    own flavour as set by the organizing committee.&nbsp; As a group, we have to 
    agree to a minimum set of standards only, as well as to get some financial, 
    legal, and insurance issues tied down to get rid of legal worries for the 
    organizers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2>I have a hunch some Sectors 
    will be quite structured, and others much less so.&nbsp; THAT freedom and 
    variance is what will make our Tour quite unique.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>
    <P>Bob England<BR>'69 E-Type &amp; '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American 
    Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route Coordinator<BR><A 
    href="http://www.jonat.org/">http://www.jonat.org</A></P></FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>Sent:</B> May 7, 2003 10:05 
      AM<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We are not police, nor minders, nor 
      baby-sitters, nor even tour guides in the snese of shepherding people from 
      one spot to another, counting heads and so on. If this is what is expected 
      of the SC's, I would like to know the limits of our 
      responsibilitie</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>s now. Some of us may not 
      feel we can or should have such responsibilities.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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