[JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES
Dr Gregory Andrachuk
jonat@autox.team.net
Thu May 8 00:24:00 2003
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MessageBut Mark, since people are going to want to do different things along the route, I don't see how or why we would have a follow-up vehicle. This is not our idea here, for sure. It isn't like a cycle tour where you have twenty people riding in a group, or is it? There won't be any "final vehicle" of "all the participants" to follow. Our idea is that you give them the route maps, suggestions for eating, hotels, garages, an emergency number, and send them on their way; naturally most or many, will travel together, so there will be a de facto "group", but there will be people who want to go ahead, turn off, stay behind, drive more slowly, etc.
Gregory
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From: Mark Stephenson
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES
I agree with what I think was the foregoing.
There is a route, and the SC should have either a sag wagon or a trailing vehicle that will follow the proscribed route behind all the participants. It is the responsibility of the participant to have sufficient maps and equipment on board to follow the route. If someone decides to strike out on their own and take a different route, or fails to follow the directions, they are on their own, IMHO.
We can't babysit everyone.
Mark Stephenson, Sector Coordinator - Arizona
Jaguar Owners North American Tour (www.jonat.org)
April 15 - July 4, 2004
Visit the Pub for route discussions
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From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 6:34 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES
Gregory
I liken the SC's coordinator's responsibilities to organizing a tour of friends through their province / state, showing them the highlights (or, per recent discussion, allowing them to go strike out on their own). Plan a route with some nice spots to see, eat, and sleep, and perhaps a gathering or two along the way. Those who strike out on their own are pretty much on their own, except for perhaps some emergency phone numbers.
Each Sector will have its own flavour as set by the organizing committee. As a group, we have to agree to a minimum set of standards only, as well as to get some financial, legal, and insurance issues tied down to get rid of legal worries for the organizers.
I have a hunch some Sectors will be quite structured, and others much less so. THAT freedom and variance is what will make our Tour quite unique.
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
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Sent: May 7, 2003 10:05 AM
We are not police, nor minders, nor baby-sitters, nor even tour guides in the snese of shepherding people from one spot to another, counting heads and so on. If this is what is expected of the SC's, I would like to know the limits of our responsibilities now. Some of us may not feel we can or should have such responsibilities.
Gregory
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But Mark, since people are going to want to do
different things along the route, I don't see how or why we would have a
follow-up vehicle. This is not our idea here, for sure. It isn't like a cycle
tour where you have twenty people riding in a group, or is it? There won't be
any "final vehicle" of "all the participants" to follow. Our idea is that
you give them the route maps, suggestions for eating, hotels, garages, an
emergency number, and send them on their way; naturally most or many, will
travel together, so there will be a de facto "group", but there will be
people who want to go ahead, turn off, stay behind, drive more slowly,
etc.</FONT></DIV>
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Gregory </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] SECTOR ROUTES</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2>I agree with what I think was
the foregoing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2>There is a route,
and the SC should have either a sag wagon or a trailing vehicle
that will follow the proscribed route behind all the participants. It is
the responsibility of the participant to have sufficient maps and equipment on
board to follow the route. If someone decides to strike out on their own and
take a different route, or fails to follow the directions, they are on their
own, IMHO.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2>We can't babysit
everyone.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=980015605-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Mark Stephenson, Sector Coordinator - Arizona<BR>Jaguar Owners
North American Tour (www.jonat.org)<BR>April 15 - July 4, 2004<BR>Visit the
Pub for route discussions </FONT></P></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Bob<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 07, 2003 6:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] SECTOR
ROUTES<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2>Gregory</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2>I liken the SC's
coordinator's responsibilities to organizing a tour of friends through their
province / state, showing them the highlights (or, per recent discussion,
allowing them to go strike out on their own). Plan a route with some
nice spots to see, eat, and sleep, and perhaps a gathering or two
along the way. Those who strike out on their own are pretty much on
their own, except for perhaps some emergency phone
numbers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2>Each Sector will have its
own flavour as set by the organizing committee. As a group, we have to
agree to a minimum set of standards only, as well as to get some financial,
legal, and insurance issues tied down to get rid of legal worries for the
organizers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=912521901-08052003><FONT size=2>I have a hunch some Sectors
will be quite structured, and others much less so. THAT freedom and
variance is what will make our Tour quite unique.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P>Bob England<BR>'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American
Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route Coordinator<BR><A
href="http://www.jonat.org/">http://www.jonat.org</A></P></FONT></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>Sent:</B> May 7, 2003 10:05
AM<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We are not police, nor minders, nor
baby-sitters, nor even tour guides in the snese of shepherding people from
one spot to another, counting heads and so on. If this is what is expected
of the SC's, I would like to know the limits of our
responsibilitie</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>s now. Some of us may not
feel we can or should have such responsibilities.</FONT></DIV>
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Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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