[JONAT] Individual vs. Tour Responsibility

[Ron Rader]

any time that you get into a car and drive you can get injured.
You do not think it is a dangerous event, however when some one gets injured
their atty. might think  otherwise.
ex; driving on CA highway one and some one runs off the road into a steep drop
off.
and his brother is an attorney. a litagator.
Here they sue you because you had an event!
Ron

Dr Gregory Andrachuk wrote:

> Agreed. But this is not a rally. This particular form does not seem suitable
> for a number of reasons. Mostly that it gives the impression that we are
> about to do something that will almost certainly injure us. Perhaps we can
> come up with something a little "gentler" which does not imply that
> litigation is a sure result of this tour.
>                                     Gregory
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Rader" <rader@interworld.net>
> To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 11:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [JONAT] Individual vs. Tour Responsibility
>
> : Gregory:
> : this is a question best answered by legal experts.
> : Ron
> :
> : Dr Gregory Andrachuk wrote:
> :
> : > Ron and Mark:  I think the first (Rally) waiver would scare the
> daylights
> : > out of most people. I certainly don't intend to do anything dangerous.
> Do
> : > any of you?
> : >     The JCNA waiver, or the ABFM waiver I sent a couple of days ago
> should
> : > be sufficient without terrorising the potential participants. Opinions?
> : >                                             Gregory
> : > ----- Original Message -----
> : > From: "Mark Stephenson" <marks@jonat.org>
> : > To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
> : > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 9:52 PM
> : > Subject: RE: [JONAT] Individual vs. Tour Responsibility
> : >
> : > : Ron,
> : > :
> : > : It looks good. It will have to be modified to JONAT vs. AH clubs, and
> will
> : > : have to be expanded to include the rules of the road in the U.S. and
> : > Canada
> : > : and the states and provinces contained therein.
> : > :
> : > : The JCNA one is even simpler:
> : > : RELEASE OF LIABILITY: I hereby agree to enter the above described
> car(s)
> : > in
> : > : the JCNA 2003 Challenge Championship and to participate in other
> planned
> : > : activities scheduled during the event. In consideration of the right
> and
> : > : privilege to enter and participate in these events and other valuable
> : > : considerations, and intending to be legally bound, I agree to release
> the
> : > : Jaguar Clubs of North America, Inc., and the 2003 Challenge
> Championship
> : > : committee from any and all liability for injuries, damages, or losses
> : > : arising from my entry and attendance in this event.
> : > :
> : > : Mark Stephenson, Sector Coordinator - Arizona
> : > : Jaguar Owners North American Tour (www.jonat.org)
> : > : April 15 - July 4, 2004
> : > :
> : > : > -----Original Message-----
> : > : > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> : > : > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Rader
> : > : > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 9:46 PM
> : > : > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> : > : > Subject: Re: [JONAT] Individual vs. Tour Responsibility
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > several have asked for this form.
> : > : > see attached.
> : > : > feel free to modify it as appropriate.
> : > : > Ron R
> : > : >
> : > : > Dr Gregory Andrachuk wrote:
> : > : >
> : > : > > What does this form say?
> : > : > >                         Gregory
> : > : > > --
> : > : > > Subject: Re: [JONAT] Individual vs. Tour Responsibility
> : > : > >
> : > : > > : I have release forms that we have used for the Petersen
> : > : > Automotive museum
> : > : > > : rallies.
> : > : > > : ron
> : > : > > :
> : > : >
> : > :
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