Subsidizing Costs; was - [JONAT] RE: FYI

Jamie - JONAT jonat@autox.team.net
Fri Nov 14 16:04:01 2003


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Yes, working to keep the Tour costs to a participant down is the way =
we'll will have to go here.  That can take the form of Sponsors, =
discounts at selected fuel stops, motels, eateries, etc.  But there is =
no way we at JONAT can even dream of subsidizing vehicle repairs.  I am =
generally a trusting soul, but Momma didn't raise no idiot either (well =
maybe).  There are people out there that while not intentionally trying =
to rip anyone off, they may honestly not realize the condition of their =
car and I cannot see subsidizing a transmission repair for example.  Or =
the cost of rear brake replacements on the XJs.

Nnnooooooo .... subsidizing anything.

Jamie & Dru - Everett, WA
88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
89 XJS V12 Convertible - Butch
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Bob=20
  To: Anthony W. (Tony) Parran ; engl@accesscomm.ca ; bpoint@telus.net=20
  Cc: JONAT MailList=20
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:25 PM
  Subject: [JONAT] RE: FYI


  My own though would be not to defray repair costs, and leave these up =
to the individual participants.  I would think you'd be better to sell =
those sponsorships to help defray organizational and events costs, =
keeping the costs down for all participants.

  Bob England
  '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
  Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
  Route Coordinator
  http://www.jonat.org

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Anthony W. (Tony) Parran [mailto:tparran@shaw.ca]
  Sent: November 14, 2003 3:52 PM
  To: engl@accesscomm.ca; bpoint@telus.net
  Subject: FYI


  The reason I thought of the cost was that this is supposed to be a fun =
event.  Obviously this is going to be very expensive for some.  So if =
they can join, or you advertise that not only will there be an emergency =
service vehicle, but the cost of repairs up to a certain amount will be =
covered, then you might get more people involved.  =20

  =20

  But then maybe this is something you=92d only tell the membership =
leaders.  Not sure about that yet.  This way you weed out those looking =
for a free ride in vehicle repairs.

  =20

  Tony

  =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, working to keep the Tour costs to =
a=20
participant down&nbsp;is the way we'll will have to go here.&nbsp; That =
can take=20
the form of Sponsors, discounts at selected fuel stops, motels, =
eateries,=20
etc.&nbsp; But there is no way we at JONAT can even dream of subsidizing =
vehicle=20
repairs.&nbsp; I am generally a trusting soul, but Momma didn't raise no =
idiot=20
either (well maybe).&nbsp; There are people out there that while not=20
intentionally trying to rip anyone off, they may honestly not realize =
the=20
condition of their car and I cannot see subsidizing a transmission =
repair for=20
example.&nbsp; Or the cost of rear brake replacements on the =
XJs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nnnooooooo .... subsidizing =
anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Jamie &amp; Dru - Everett, WA<BR>88 Series III V12 VdP - =
Roxanne<BR>89 XJS=20
V12 Convertible - Butch<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - <A=20
href=3D"http://jonat.org">http://jonat.org</A><BR>April 15, 2004 - July =
4,=20
2004<BR></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dtparran@shaw.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:tparran@shaw.ca">Anthony W. (Tony) Parran</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">engl@accesscomm.ca</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dbpoint@telus.net =
href=3D"mailto:bpoint@telus.net">bpoint@telus.net</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
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  href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">JONAT MailList</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 14, 2003 =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] RE: FYI</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D225242322-14112003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>My=20
  own though would be not to defray repair costs, and leave these up to =
the=20
  individual participants.&nbsp; I would think you'd be better to sell =
those=20
  sponsorships to help defray organizational and events costs, keeping =
the costs=20
  down for all participants.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000>Bob=20
  England<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D1>'69 =
E-Type &amp; '72=20
  XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
  Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org"><FONT=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#008000=20
  size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Anthony W. (Tony) =
Parran=20
  [mailto:tparran@shaw.ca]<BR><B>Sent:</B> November 14, 2003 3:52=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">engl@accesscomm.ca</A>;=20
  <A =
href=3D"mailto:bpoint@telus.net">bpoint@telus.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> =

  FYI<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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