SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update

Jerry Mouton jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Nov 22 14:37:01 2003


Me too -- that's certainly the way I am seeing the San Francisco
leg being run.  So I am not sure what there is that needs to be
discussed, that is not addressed very well by this very forum...

Jerry

Jerry Mouton    '64 E Type FHC    "Laissez les bons temps rouler!"
      Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
      April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Stephenson" <marks@jonat.org>
To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators
List Update


> I tend to agree with Gregory.
>
> Mark - AZ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:33 AM
> > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant
> > Sector Coordinators List Update
> >
> > This is all sounding a bit complicated. As far as I am
> > concerned, I need to
> > know when the group is arriving in my region, and when it is
> > leaving my
> > area. For this I need to coordinate with the formaer and next section
> > coordinators. Pretty much everything else is extra. Are we not
> > over-organising? This is not an all expense paid tour, tips
> > included. My
> > understanding is that we provide guidance regarding hotels,
> > restaurants,
> > services, roads, side trips; that we have some sort of
> > organised meal(s),
> > and that beyond that we leave people to do what they do best
> > - drive their
> > Jaguars and have fun seeing the sights around Canada and the
> > US, meeting new
> > people.  I am getting the impression that some SC's have too
> > much time on
> > their hands. Respectfully,
> >
> >   Gregory
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad Preiss" <bpreiss@cox.net>
> > To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:29 AM
> > Subject: RE: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant
> > Sector Coordinators
> > List Update
> >
> >
> > : Tony,
> > :
> > : I would have to respectfully disagree - typing text is
> > immensely slower
> > then
> > : even the worst Internet connection - and would not be a
> > problem in that
> > : format.
> > :
> > : However,
> > :
> > :  I do agree that only the "three nearest" SC's should be
> > involved - BUT -
> > : when you think about that - the nearest "three" would also
> > mean that you
> > : would have to attend at least three meetings MINIMUM. The
> > "three" outside
> > : your original core three original SC's would still contact
> > you to join the
> > : "next further three" and so on.... so there would be
> > overlap back on each
> > SC
> > : on either side...not good.
> > :
> > : Ok - read that again - it does make sense ( to me anyway )
> > and it would
> > : cause three meetings (or more) for each SC...
> > :
> > : Hmmmm....guess we should think this through...
> > :
> > : Bob - in the mean time I'll just e-mail my nearest SC's -
> > HA!! - sorry for
> > : all the trouble!!!
> > :
> > : "Trouble Maker" Brad....
> > :
> > : -----Original Message-----
> > : From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > : Behalf Of Anthony W. (Tony) Parran
> > : Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:23 AM
> > : To: jonat@autox.team.net
> > : Subject: RE: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant Sector
> > : Coordinators List Update
> > :
> > :
> > : Hello Everyone:
> > :
> > : I'm new to the discussion, but if any of you have had the
> > "benefit" of
> > : attending an MLM telemarketing conference, they use an 800
> > number, but
> > : somehow have the ability to "mute" everyone while the host
> > speaks.  I
> > think
> > : they also have the ability to flip a switch to control who
> > gets to speaks,
> > : regardless of where they are in the country.  I would
> > assume this is all
> > : arranged before hand.
> > :
> > : The problem with AOL, MSN, or Yahoo messenger is that we
> > all would need to
> > : be at the same level of computer expertise and have the
> > same computer
> > : equipment, or nearly so.
> > :
> > : I.E., I am on a wireless high-speed cable network.  I can
> > assure you that
> > a
> > : person on a 56K modem is going to be very unhappy and wanna
> > kick my you
> > know
> > : what. I will be able to dominate the conversation without
> > meaning to.  My
> > : bandwidth is much wider, and faster.
> > :
> > : So maybe a small group of sector coordinators could get
> > together with
> > input
> > : from the masses, agree on the topics to be covered send and
> > out a notice
> > of
> > : an upcoming conference call and then go for it.
> > :
> > : Everyone gets to hear what is said.
> > :
> > : When finished everyone can send email to their respective sector
> > coordinator
> > : with thoughts and ideas.  The sector coordinators in turn filter out
> > : duplicates, unreasonable request, etc (with explanation back to the
> > : originator) and pass this information upwards.
> > :
> > : At the next meeting/conference, the new topics are covered
> > and again the
> > : process repeated.
> > :
> > : This way everyone get to "hear" any new input instead of second hand
> > stuff,
> > : but the meeting is controlled and new information passed along.
> > :
> > : Anyway, that's my two-cents worth.
> > :
> > : Tony
> > :
> > : -----Original Message-----
> > : From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > : Behalf Of Mark Stephenson
> > : Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:44 PM
> > : To: jonat@autox.team.net
> > : Subject: RE: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant Sector
> > Coordinators
> > : List Update
> > :
> > : Along the same lines, you can save a chat and forward that.
> > It's a lot
> > : easier than keeping minutes and typing them  out.
> > :
> > : Mark
> > :
> > : > -----Original Message-----
> > : > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> > : > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Preiss
> > : > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:08 PM
> > : > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> > : > Subject: RE: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant
> > : > Sector Coordinators List Update
> > : >
> > : > Great feedback on all of this -
> > : >
> > : > I was bringing up the conference call idea as a way to keep
> > : > communications
> > : > open for all of us (which is always good).
> > : >
> > : > I agree that only two or three sectors at a time is most
> > : > reasonable - Too
> > : > large a group for a con call with all of us.
> > : >
> > : > ( The 1-800 # I was referring to was what they call a
> > : > "bridge" where as we
> > : > could call into a single 1-800 number and be "bridged"
> > : > together on one call
> > : > with using number - very useful for large spread out groups
> > : > such as this)
> > : >
> > : > The "net chat" idea can be easily accommodated via simple
> > : > Instant Messenger
> > : > chat room - ( most people have an AOL IM address - if not, it
> > : > is free to
> > : > download and you do not have to be a member of AOL to have it ).
> > : >
> > : > To keep continuity as mentioned - a simple "minutes" of any
> > : > issues that
> > : > arise during the call could be forwarded to Bob or Jamie and
> > : > then combined
> > : > at that level then disseminated later.
> > : >
> > : > Brad
> > : >
> > : >
> > : >
> > : > -----Original Message-----
> > : > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > : > Behalf Of Jamie - JONAT
> > : > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:50 AM
> > : > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> > : > Subject: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant Sector
> > : > Coordinators
> > : > List Update
> > : >
> > : >
> > : > I agree with the value of tying in with nearby SCs.  I
> > : > suppose three on
> > : > either side is good, but I would think two would suffice if
> > : > we have a bit of
> > : > a schedule problem with SC availability.
> > : >
> > : > I also like the Chat option Mark brought up too.  Somewhat
> > : > because of it's
> > : > cost parameter and although I really haven't used any Chat
> > : > line too much,
> > : > the little I have they seemed to be fairly instantaneous.  We
> > : > may suffer
> > : > from lack of emotion though as most computing communications
> > : > seem to.  I
> > : > might mention that when we had our first "inter-Sector"
> > : > meeting last year in
> > : > BC, it seemed to me to take a few minutes for everyone to
> > : > feel comfortable
> > : > enough to open up and let the ideas or questions flow.
> > Maybe that's a
> > : > "human trait" but do we want to pay for phone time while
> > : > everyone is "making
> > : > nice"?
> > : >
> > : > Okay, forget that concern, I'm just getting overwhelmed
> > around here in
> > : > business & personal life and have a little stress going on.
> > : > But although I
> > : > just explained it, I'm still leaving that comment in this
> > : > email to show I
> > : > have the concern and perhaps we need to keep some watered
> > : > down version of it
> > : > in mind.  Perhaps if we could collect some basic questions to
> > : > get a quick
> > : > start with, we can dive right in when we connect up.
> > : >
> > : > I noticed Trey said later the better (essentially), that
> > : > probably works for
> > : > a few of us.  And if we stay within our two-three Sector
> > : > limit, it shouldn't
> > : > be too hard to schedule it so it's good for all.  The only
> > : > problem I can
> > : > dream up right now is the continuation of an overall JONAT
> > : > communication
> > : > incongruence.  What I mean is there will not be a "single
> > : > person" (at least)
> > : > who will have heard all conversations and therefore maybe be
> > : > able to further
> > : > explain some point brought up if required at a later time, to
> > : > a different
> > : > SC, in a timely manner.
> > : >
> > : > So that brings us back to ALL or perhaps Bob & I being on the
> > : > line for all
> > : > calls.
> > : >
> > : > Someone also mentioned something about somehow conferencing
> > : > with relation to
> > : > an 800 number?  Remember, JONAT has an 800 number currently.
> > : > Can it be used
> > : > someway?
> > : >
> > : > Hmmm ...
> > : >
> > : > Jamie
> > : >
> > : > Jamie & Dru - Everett, WA
> > : > 88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
> > : > 89 XJS V12 Convertible - Butch
> > : > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
> > : > April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004
> > : >
> > : > ----- Original Message -----
> > : > From: "Mark McDavid" <mcdavid@britishparts.com>
> > : > To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
> > : > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:25 AM
> > : > Subject: RE: [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update
> > : >
> > : >
> > : > > I agree that a conference call would be useful and that the
> > : > call should be
> > : > > limited to nearby sectors.
> > : > >
> > : > > Mark McDavid
> > : > > Marketing Director
> > : > > Motorcars LTD/British Parts International
> > : > > http://www.motorcarsltd.com
> > : > > http://www.britishparts.com
> > : > >
> > : > >
> > : > > > -----Original Message-----
> > : > > > From: Ian Bailey [SMTP:ibailey@cbnsystem.com]
> > : > > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:02 PM
> > : > > > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> > : > > > Subject: Re: [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update
> > : > > >
> > : > > > It may be useful I think but only for a few sectors at a
> > : > time. There
> > : > would
> > : > > > be too many people to talk to at one time; however,  I
> > : > would like to
> > : > talk
> > : > > > to say 3 sectors in front and 3 behind me.
> > : > > >
> > : > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > : > > > From: Bob <mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca>
> > : > > > To: jonat@autox.team.net <mailto:jonat@autox.team.net>
> > : > > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:55 PM
> > : > > > Subject: RE: [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update
> > : > > >
> > : > > > The idea of  a conference call might have some merit.
> > : > What do some of
> > : > you
> > : > > > other SC's think of this?
> > : > > >
> > : > > >
> > : > > > Bob
> > : > > >
> > : > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > : > > > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> > : > <mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net>
> > : > > > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad Preiss
> > : > > > Sent: November 20, 2003 12:59 AM
> > : > > > To: jonat@autox.team.net <mailto:jonat@autox.team.net>
> > : > > > Subject: RE: [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update
> > : > > >
> > : > > >
> > : > > >
> > : > > > It's just getting another set of "new eyeballs " on stuff
> > : > - but thanks,
> > : > > > what you guys have done to date is again, very impressive!!
> > : > > >
> > : > > > Now let's let the rest of the "Jag world" know what we're
> > : > up too - love
> > : > to
> > : > > > make this a huge event and get some real press on this -
> > : > that would be
> > : > > > FUN!
> > : > > >
> > : > > > Ok,
> > : > > >
> > : > > > Any way to simply get the current registration numbers -
> > : > the other SC's
> > : > > > must need these for reservations ect. ( my wife's first
> > : > question - of
> > : > > > course )
> > : > > >
> > : > > > Not to make any waves - but I think in the near
> > future a real time
> > : > > > conference call for all SC's and you would be in
> > : > order....get everyone
> > : > on
> > : > > > the "same page"
> > : > > > your in charge, so go as you may  - but it has been my
> > : > experience that
> > : > > > teams get more vocal when there are "live" people on the
> > : > line -  meaning
> > : > > > that questions they reserve and keep to themselves are
> > : > put out on the
> > : > > > table when sometimes via e-mail they are not brought up (
> > : > unless it is
> > : > an
> > : > > > emergency).  Maybe if you give an overall status of the
> > : > tour, then a
> > : > quick
> > : > > > 1 minute update from each SC - then open forum...
> > : > > >
> > : > > > I may be able to set this up free of charge - using
> > my "old" MCI
> > : > contacts
> > : > > > and a 1-800 number ( no guarantees on this - but I may be
> > : > able to call
> > : > in
> > : > > > a favor )..... just let me know if this is something you
> > : > think would be
> > : > in
> > : > > > order...as the start date move closer - it is
> > something you should
> > : > > > consider if even for only one call.
> > : > > >
> > : > > > Again, I am just throwing out new ideas and concepts - I
> > : > hope I am not
> > : > > > sounding like a "problem child" because I really am
> > not - ...no
> > : > really....
> > : > > > I'm not...lol
> > : > > >
> > : > > > Trouble maker...Brad
> > : > > >
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