SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update

Mark Stephenson jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Nov 22 14:25:01 2003


I tend to agree with Gregory.

Mark - AZ 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net 
> [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:33 AM
> To: jonat@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant 
> Sector Coordinators List Update
> 
> This is all sounding a bit complicated. As far as I am 
> concerned, I need to
> know when the group is arriving in my region, and when it is 
> leaving my
> area. For this I need to coordinate with the formaer and next section
> coordinators. Pretty much everything else is extra. Are we not
> over-organising? This is not an all expense paid tour, tips 
> included. My
> understanding is that we provide guidance regarding hotels, 
> restaurants,
> services, roads, side trips; that we have some sort of 
> organised meal(s),
> and that beyond that we leave people to do what they do best 
> - drive their
> Jaguars and have fun seeing the sights around Canada and the 
> US, meeting new
> people.  I am getting the impression that some SC's have too 
> much time on
> their hands. Respectfully,
>                                                               
>   Gregory
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Preiss" <bpreiss@cox.net>
> To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:29 AM
> Subject: RE: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant 
> Sector Coordinators
> List Update
> 
> 
> : Tony,
> :
> : I would have to respectfully disagree - typing text is 
> immensely slower
> then
> : even the worst Internet connection - and would not be a 
> problem in that
> : format.
> :
> : However,
> :
> :  I do agree that only the "three nearest" SC's should be 
> involved - BUT -
> : when you think about that - the nearest "three" would also 
> mean that you
> : would have to attend at least three meetings MINIMUM. The 
> "three" outside
> : your original core three original SC's would still contact 
> you to join the
> : "next further three" and so on.... so there would be 
> overlap back on each
> SC
> : on either side...not good.
> :
> : Ok - read that again - it does make sense ( to me anyway ) 
> and it would
> : cause three meetings (or more) for each SC...
> :
> : Hmmmm....guess we should think this through...
> :
> : Bob - in the mean time I'll just e-mail my nearest SC's - 
> HA!! - sorry for
> : all the trouble!!!
> :
> : "Trouble Maker" Brad....
> :
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net 
> [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
> : Behalf Of Anthony W. (Tony) Parran
> : Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:23 AM
> : To: jonat@autox.team.net
> : Subject: RE: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant Sector
> : Coordinators List Update
> :
> :
> : Hello Everyone:
> :
> : I'm new to the discussion, but if any of you have had the 
> "benefit" of
> : attending an MLM telemarketing conference, they use an 800 
> number, but
> : somehow have the ability to "mute" everyone while the host 
> speaks.  I
> think
> : they also have the ability to flip a switch to control who 
> gets to speaks,
> : regardless of where they are in the country.  I would 
> assume this is all
> : arranged before hand.
> :
> : The problem with AOL, MSN, or Yahoo messenger is that we 
> all would need to
> : be at the same level of computer expertise and have the 
> same computer
> : equipment, or nearly so.
> :
> : I.E., I am on a wireless high-speed cable network.  I can 
> assure you that
> a
> : person on a 56K modem is going to be very unhappy and wanna 
> kick my you
> know
> : what. I will be able to dominate the conversation without 
> meaning to.  My
> : bandwidth is much wider, and faster.
> :
> : So maybe a small group of sector coordinators could get 
> together with
> input
> : from the masses, agree on the topics to be covered send and 
> out a notice
> of
> : an upcoming conference call and then go for it.
> :
> : Everyone gets to hear what is said.
> :
> : When finished everyone can send email to their respective sector
> coordinator
> : with thoughts and ideas.  The sector coordinators in turn filter out
> : duplicates, unreasonable request, etc (with explanation back to the
> : originator) and pass this information upwards.
> :
> : At the next meeting/conference, the new topics are covered 
> and again the
> : process repeated.
> :
> : This way everyone get to "hear" any new input instead of second hand
> stuff,
> : but the meeting is controlled and new information passed along.
> :
> : Anyway, that's my two-cents worth.
> :
> : Tony
> :
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net 
> [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
> : Behalf Of Mark Stephenson
> : Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:44 PM
> : To: jonat@autox.team.net
> : Subject: RE: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant Sector
> Coordinators
> : List Update
> :
> : Along the same lines, you can save a chat and forward that. 
> It's a lot
> : easier than keeping minutes and typing them  out.
> :
> : Mark
> :
> : > -----Original Message-----
> : > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> : > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Preiss
> : > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:08 PM
> : > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> : > Subject: RE: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant
> : > Sector Coordinators List Update
> : >
> : > Great feedback on all of this -
> : >
> : > I was bringing up the conference call idea as a way to keep
> : > communications
> : > open for all of us (which is always good).
> : >
> : > I agree that only two or three sectors at a time is most
> : > reasonable - Too
> : > large a group for a con call with all of us.
> : >
> : > ( The 1-800 # I was referring to was what they call a
> : > "bridge" where as we
> : > could call into a single 1-800 number and be "bridged"
> : > together on one call
> : > with using number - very useful for large spread out groups
> : > such as this)
> : >
> : > The "net chat" idea can be easily accommodated via simple
> : > Instant Messenger
> : > chat room - ( most people have an AOL IM address - if not, it
> : > is free to
> : > download and you do not have to be a member of AOL to have it ).
> : >
> : > To keep continuity as mentioned - a simple "minutes" of any
> : > issues that
> : > arise during the call could be forwarded to Bob or Jamie and
> : > then combined
> : > at that level then disseminated later.
> : >
> : > Brad
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > -----Original Message-----
> : > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net 
> [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
> : > Behalf Of Jamie - JONAT
> : > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:50 AM
> : > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> : > Subject: SC Conference Call(s): - [JONAT] Assistant Sector
> : > Coordinators
> : > List Update
> : >
> : >
> : > I agree with the value of tying in with nearby SCs.  I
> : > suppose three on
> : > either side is good, but I would think two would suffice if
> : > we have a bit of
> : > a schedule problem with SC availability.
> : >
> : > I also like the Chat option Mark brought up too.  Somewhat
> : > because of it's
> : > cost parameter and although I really haven't used any Chat
> : > line too much,
> : > the little I have they seemed to be fairly instantaneous.  We
> : > may suffer
> : > from lack of emotion though as most computing communications
> : > seem to.  I
> : > might mention that when we had our first "inter-Sector"
> : > meeting last year in
> : > BC, it seemed to me to take a few minutes for everyone to
> : > feel comfortable
> : > enough to open up and let the ideas or questions flow.  
> Maybe that's a
> : > "human trait" but do we want to pay for phone time while
> : > everyone is "making
> : > nice"?
> : >
> : > Okay, forget that concern, I'm just getting overwhelmed 
> around here in
> : > business & personal life and have a little stress going on.
> : > But although I
> : > just explained it, I'm still leaving that comment in this
> : > email to show I
> : > have the concern and perhaps we need to keep some watered
> : > down version of it
> : > in mind.  Perhaps if we could collect some basic questions to
> : > get a quick
> : > start with, we can dive right in when we connect up.
> : >
> : > I noticed Trey said later the better (essentially), that
> : > probably works for
> : > a few of us.  And if we stay within our two-three Sector
> : > limit, it shouldn't
> : > be too hard to schedule it so it's good for all.  The only
> : > problem I can
> : > dream up right now is the continuation of an overall JONAT
> : > communication
> : > incongruence.  What I mean is there will not be a "single
> : > person" (at least)
> : > who will have heard all conversations and therefore maybe be
> : > able to further
> : > explain some point brought up if required at a later time, to
> : > a different
> : > SC, in a timely manner.
> : >
> : > So that brings us back to ALL or perhaps Bob & I being on the
> : > line for all
> : > calls.
> : >
> : > Someone also mentioned something about somehow conferencing
> : > with relation to
> : > an 800 number?  Remember, JONAT has an 800 number currently.
> : > Can it be used
> : > someway?
> : >
> : > Hmmm ...
> : >
> : > Jamie
> : >
> : > Jamie & Dru - Everett, WA
> : > 88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
> : > 89 XJS V12 Convertible - Butch
> : > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
> : > April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004
> : >
> : > ----- Original Message -----
> : > From: "Mark McDavid" <mcdavid@britishparts.com>
> : > To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
> : > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:25 AM
> : > Subject: RE: [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update
> : >
> : >
> : > > I agree that a conference call would be useful and that the
> : > call should be
> : > > limited to nearby sectors.
> : > >
> : > > Mark McDavid
> : > > Marketing Director
> : > > Motorcars LTD/British Parts International
> : > > http://www.motorcarsltd.com
> : > > http://www.britishparts.com
> : > >
> : > >
> : > > > -----Original Message-----
> : > > > From: Ian Bailey [SMTP:ibailey@cbnsystem.com]
> : > > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:02 PM
> : > > > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> : > > > Subject: Re: [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update
> : > > >
> : > > > It may be useful I think but only for a few sectors at a
> : > time. There
> : > would
> : > > > be too many people to talk to at one time; however,  I
> : > would like to
> : > talk
> : > > > to say 3 sectors in front and 3 behind me.
> : > > >
> : > > > ----- Original Message -----
> : > > > From: Bob <mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca>
> : > > > To: jonat@autox.team.net <mailto:jonat@autox.team.net>
> : > > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:55 PM
> : > > > Subject: RE: [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update
> : > > >
> : > > > The idea of  a conference call might have some merit.
> : > What do some of
> : > you
> : > > > other SC's think of this?
> : > > >
> : > > >
> : > > > Bob
> : > > >
> : > > >  -----Original Message-----
> : > > > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> : > <mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net>
> : > > > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad Preiss
> : > > > Sent: November 20, 2003 12:59 AM
> : > > > To: jonat@autox.team.net <mailto:jonat@autox.team.net>
> : > > > Subject: RE: [JONAT] Assistant Sector Coordinators List Update
> : > > >
> : > > >
> : > > >
> : > > > It's just getting another set of "new eyeballs " on stuff
> : > - but thanks,
> : > > > what you guys have done to date is again, very impressive!!
> : > > >
> : > > > Now let's let the rest of the "Jag world" know what we're
> : > up too - love
> : > to
> : > > > make this a huge event and get some real press on this -
> : > that would be
> : > > > FUN!
> : > > >
> : > > > Ok,
> : > > >
> : > > > Any way to simply get the current registration numbers -
> : > the other SC's
> : > > > must need these for reservations ect. ( my wife's first
> : > question - of
> : > > > course )
> : > > >
> : > > > Not to make any waves - but I think in the near 
> future a real time
> : > > > conference call for all SC's and you would be in
> : > order....get everyone
> : > on
> : > > > the "same page"
> : > > > your in charge, so go as you may  - but it has been my
> : > experience that
> : > > > teams get more vocal when there are "live" people on the
> : > line -  meaning
> : > > > that questions they reserve and keep to themselves are
> : > put out on the
> : > > > table when sometimes via e-mail they are not brought up (
> : > unless it is
> : > an
> : > > > emergency).  Maybe if you give an overall status of the
> : > tour, then a
> : > quick
> : > > > 1 minute update from each SC - then open forum...
> : > > >
> : > > > I may be able to set this up free of charge - using 
> my "old" MCI
> : > contacts
> : > > > and a 1-800 number ( no guarantees on this - but I may be
> : > able to call
> : > in
> : > > > a favor )..... just let me know if this is something you
> : > think would be
> : > in
> : > > > order...as the start date move closer - it is 
> something you should
> : > > > consider if even for only one call.
> : > > >
> : > > > Again, I am just throwing out new ideas and concepts - I
> : > hope I am not
> : > > > sounding like a "problem child" because I really am 
> not - ...no
> : > really....
> : > > > I'm not...lol
> : > > >
> : > > > Trouble maker...Brad
> : > > >
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