[JONAT] Re: San Diego Addition for 2004
F. Ronald Rader
jonat@autox.team.net
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Hey folks. we have dinner at the Petersen Automotive museum booked for may 5th.
Ron
At 10:24 PM 10/16/2003, Mark Stephenson wrote:
>That's right! Cinco de Mayo. Perfect!
>
>I was semi joking about the Salton Sea Party. My only point was that we can
>hit the low hundreds (40C) in Phoenix at 1100 ft. elevation. We can also be
>in the 80s (30C). Assuming a similar weather pattern, I'd conclude that it
>would be at least 5F hotter at the Salton Sea (-225 ft. elev.). Hence, my
>concern for scheduling the drive into the mid afternoon. You could leave the
>actual departure time open. If it's cool we can leave later; if it's hot, on
>the road at 6:00 a.m. or you're on your own. A quick glance made it look to
>me like it's at least 8 hours on the back roads from Lake Havasu to San
>Diego. That's why I was suggesting an overnight someplace about six hours
>out, which would be somewhere around the Salton Sea. For those of you from
>humid areas, temps rise fast in the desert, and it could be as much as 10F
>hotter at 3:30 p.m. as it is a noon.
>
>Anyway, those are my meteorological observations based on the weather in
>Arizona.
>
>Hazel, you might want to go on the Western Regional Climactic Center,
>Climate Summaries <http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/climsum.html>. This will give you
>all the daily data including record high, lowest high, record low, highest
>low, average high and low, and precip max, min and avg. This covers the
>entire western US, for any of the rest of you who want to check it out. For
>example, daily summary stats for Mecca, CA, at the north end of the Salton
>Sea, <http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?camecc+sca> indicate that
>the record high is around 105F and the average is around 92F. The minimum
>high was in the mid-seventies.
>
>Mark Stephenson, Sector Coordinator - Arizona
>Jaguar Owners North American Tour (www.jonat.org)
>April 15 - July 4, 2004
>Visit the Pub for route discussions
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hazel A. Beck
> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:47 AM
> > To: Jerry Mouton; Bob England; jonat@autox.team.net
> > Cc: Jamie Duffey - JONAT; Michael Jensen - JONAT; Kerry
> > Williamson - JONAT; Gregory Andrachuk - JON
> > Subject: [JONAT] Re: San Diego Addition for 2004
> >
> >
> > Hi, everyone...thanks for all the e-mails...
> >
> > Our club held its monthly Board Meeting last evening and I
> > shared some of
> > your e-mails with them...they are very excited to have our
> > city added to the
> > tour...we consider San Diego a far better choice than Las Vegas!
> >
> > They suggested they we time our Winery Tour with your arrival in early
> > May...we have our own mini-Napa Valley here in a city called
> > Temecula...it's
> > just off I-15, less than an hour north of downtown San
> > Diego...we map out a
> > drive through the winery country and then have a catered
> > lunch at one of the
> > wineries...we also thought that we could get a contingent of
> > cars to meet
> > you as you enter San Diego County and join the tour...I could
> > also see about
> > a tour and dinner at Headquarters in Irvine on the way up to LA.
> >
> > As for Cinco de Mayo, it's definitely celebrated in San
> > Diego...in style.
> >
> > Re: the Salton Sea Party...there are accomodations in El
> > Centro...the Sea is
> > pretty isolated...not much around it...a bird sanctuary and geothermal
> > plants...cool idea, though...but I'd have to make some inquiries.
> >
> > Either I-10 or I-8 would work...back roads into San Diego
> > either way...and
> > the route is across a desert...it shouldn't be too hot yet in
> > the first week
> > of May.
> >
> > So...how can we help to make this happen?
> >
> > Looking forward to talking with you soon,
> > Hazel
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerry Mouton" <jerry@moutons.org>
> > To: "Bob England" <engl@jonat.org>; <jonat@autox.team.net>
> > Cc: "Jamie Duffey - JONAT" <jamie@jonat.org>; "Michael Jensen - JONAT"
> > <jenfam@sbcglobal.net>; "Kerry Williamson - JONAT"
> > <kwilliamson@broadbandnorthwest.com>; "Gregory Andrachuk - JON"
> > <v12-vdp@shaw.ca>; <hazelbeck@worldnet.att.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: San Diego Addition for 2004; Re: JONAT Route
> >
> >
> > > No problem here -- I like San Diego better anyway.
> > > Extra day is not an issue yet -- it's early days.
> > >
> > > Jerry Mouton '64 E Type FHC "Laissez les bons temps rouler!"
> > > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
> > > April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob England" <engl@jonat.org>
> > > To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
> > > Cc: "Jamie Duffey - JONAT" <jamie@jonat.org>; "Jerry
> > Moutons - JONAT"
> > > <jerry@moutons.org>; "Michael Jensen - JONAT"
> > <jenfam@sbcglobal.net>;
> > "Kerry
> > > Williamson - JONAT" <kwilliamson@broadbandnorthwest.com>; "Gregory
> > > Andrachuk - JON" <v12-vdp@shaw.ca>; <hazelbeck@worldnet.att.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:58 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [JONAT] RE: San Diego Addition for 2004; Re:
> > JONAT Route
> > >
> > >
> > > > This seems to be approaching unanimous to skip LV. Any
> > other comments,
> > > > questions or concerns?
> > > >
> > > > How about some comments from San Francisco (Jerry
> > Mouton), Lake Tahoe
> > link
> > > > (Michael Jensen), Oregon (Kerry Williamson), Washington
> > (Jamie Duffey),
> > > and
> > > > British Columbia (Gregory Andrachuk) - this may push back
> > the schedule a
> > > day
> > > > or so (won't effect the Vancouver ABFM attendance).
> > > >
> > > > Bob England
> > > > '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
> > > > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
> > > > Route Coordinator
> > > > http://www.jonat.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > > > Behalf Of Mark Stephenson
> > > > Sent: October 16, 2003 12:21 AM
> > > > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: RE: [JONAT] RE: San Diego Addition for 2004; Re:
> > JONAT Route
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Another option (which I keep pushing) is to skip LV
> > altogether. If we
> > > don't
> > > > have a LV coordinator and we have an enthusiastic person
> > in SD, we can
> > > save
> > > > LV for 2006. For me, I personally would really like to
> > continue on Rt.
> > 66
> > > > toward LA, but if we go to SD it might be better to go
> > from Lake Havasu
> > > City
> > > > to Parker, AZ, cross the Colorado River go east on CA-62
> > and down CA-177
> > > to
> > > > I-10 and take the back roads to San Diego. Keep in mind,
> > this takes us
> > > > across some pretty desolate and hot country, so we'd have
> > to leave very
> > > > early to beat the heat of early May and we might have to
> > plan on an
> > > > overnight stop around midday. (Perhaps a Salton Sea
> > Party?) It would
> > > depend
> > > > on the average daytime high temps. I was going to say
> > that's Ron's call,
> > > but
> > > > it might be Hazel's.
> > > >
> > > > Mark Stephenson, Sector Coordinator - Arizona
> > > > Jaguar Owners North American Tour (www.jonat.org)
> > > > April 15 - July 4, 2004
> > > > Visit the Pub for route discussions
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On
> > > > Behalf Of F. Ronald Rader
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:12 PM
> > > > To: jonat@autox.team.net
> > > > Cc: Hazel A. Beck; Engl-JONAT; Jamie Duffey - JONAT; Fazal Cader -
> > JONAT;
> > > > jonat@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: San Diego Addition for 2004; Re:
> > JONAT Route
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Folks:
> > > > I think that the route from Las Vegas to San Diego then
> > to Los Angeles
> > > might
> > > > be more interesting than the route from LV to LA.
> > > >
> > > > Please keep in mind that when entering Los Angeles there
> > is 5 o'clock
> > > > traffic from every direction. A drive from SD to LA which
> > could leave SD
> > > at
> > > > 8.00 AM would want to be at the west side hotel
> > destination by 2.00 PM
> > if
> > > we
> > > > are then going to drive to the Petersen Automotive Museum
> > for a car
> > > corral,
> > > > cocktails and dinner.
> > > >
> > > > OTOH if we lay over one night in LA, the tour of the
> > Petersen Automotive
> > > > Museum could be on the layover day with the car show and
> > dinner around
> > > 6.00
> > > > PM.
> > > >
> > > > I also think it would be a good way of picking up the
> > large group of Jag
> > > > owners in the greater SD area. IMO I would not spend the
> > extra day in
> > Las
> > > > Vegas. But that is me. As it is now I have arrange for a
> > dinner at the
> > > > Petersen Automotive Museum on Cinco de Mayo (may 5th)
> > 2004. I am sure
> > that
> > > > we could move that out one night if needed.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I spoke with Jason Len of XK's Unlimited (SLO) and
> > he would be
> > > pleased
> > > > to provide economic support in a small way. Perhaps a
> > Cocktail party the
> > > > night that we are in SLO? Also he would keep his shop
> > open that night
> > if
> > > we
> > > > asked in advance. This could be for buying parts, spares, or minor
> > repair.
> > > >
> > > > It would be great if we had a Las Vegas coordinator.
> > Mark, what do you
> > > > think?
> > > >
> > > > Ron Rader
> > > > Los Angeles Coordinator.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 03:49 PM 10/15/2003, Bob England wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hazel
> > > >
> > > > It's great to hear from San Diego and I'd sure like to be
> > able to tap
> > into
> > > > your enthusiasm. We have a few options at this point:
> > > >
> > > > 1. (the easiest) is to have a link tour from San Diego up
> > to LA. That
> > is,
> > > > SD would not be on the main route, but there would be a
> > group of San
> > > Diegans
> > > > travelling from SD (and back of course) to join up with
> > the tour in LA,
> > > and
> > > > hopefully carry on with the Tour a bit from there. We have a few
> > similar
> > > > situations (Reno, Phoenix, and Saskatoon) so far.
> > > >
> > > > 2. we could re-route the tour. We do not have a
> > Co-ordinator for Las
> > > Vegas
> > > > as of yet, so an option would be to bypass LV, and go
> > from the Phoenix
> > > > Sector into SD. This would need the cooperation of Los
> > Angeles (Ron
> > > Rader)
> > > > and Phoenix (Mark Stevenson) as it would mean a change to
> > their route.
> > We
> > > > have a few flex days in Vancouver that would allow the
> > timing to work
> > out
> > > > (it would effect dates through northern California,
> > Oregon, Washington,
> > > and
> > > > the first bit of British Columbia.
> > > >
> > > > 3. leave SD to be included in "Jaguar Owner's North
> > American Tour - The
> > > > Sequel", perhaps in 2006.
> > > >
> > > > My preference would be either 1 or 2.
> > > >
> > > > I think I'll also open up this discussion to all SC's via
> > the mailing
> > > list.
> > > > There may be some other valuable comments out there, and
> > those whose
> > > sectors
> > > > are effected might want to add in a few comments.
> > > >
> > > > I'm very much looking forward to seeing San Diego
> > participate in some
> > form
> > > > next year.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bob England
> > > > '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
> > > > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
> > > > Route Coordinator
> > > > http://www.jonat.org
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jamie - JONAT [mailto:jamie@jonat.org]
> > > > Sent: October 15, 2003 12:36 PM
> > > > To: Hazel A. Beck
> > > > Cc: Engl-JONAT
> > > > Subject: San Diego Additon for 2004; Re: JONAT Route
> > > >
> > > > Hello Hazel, this is actually quite a surprise at this
> > point in our
> > > > planning. We started over a year ago enlisting
> > interested parties in
> > the
> > > > Tour formation steps which included the routing, length
> > of stay in an
> > > area,
> > > > events or sites included along the way and volunteers to
> > help with their
> > > > specific areas along the route. Please do not get me
> > wrong, we are
> > > pleased
> > > > that your club is interested in participating in the Tour
> > as one of our
> > > > goals is to provide another opportunity for fellow Jaguar
> > owners to
> > enjoy
> > > > their choice in vehicle ownership and we feel it is an
> > added benefit to
> > > > enjoy the comradery of other owners we can meet on a Tour
> > such as this
> > as
> > > > some tourers will be traveling perhaps a couple of
> > Sectors while others
> > > may
> > > > be traveling the entire route.
> > > >
> > > > We may have a problem adjusting the routing at this late
> > date though.
> > We
> > > > have been organizing the Tour for over the past year, as
> > I mentioned,
> > and
> > > > have already set some dates for certain areas so we can
> > specifically
> > > attend
> > > > certain events in those areas. Therefore I am uncertain
> > whether it will
> > > be
> > > > possible to adjust the routing for this first Tour
> > without negatively
> > > > affecting other Sector schedules. We can absolutely
> > include the San
> > Diego
> > > > area in the next Tour, I just cannot answer for this
> > coming year at this
> > > > time. I am forwarding my response to my fellow Executive
> > Committee
> > > members
> > > > and we shall take a look into this routing change. We
> > will have to
> > > discuss
> > > > this with each of the Sector Coordinators "downstream" of
> > your location
> > > and
> > > > see what affect it will have on their plans.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a feel for or better yet a solid number of
> > people from your
> > > Club
> > > > which are interested in participating at this time? Do
> > you have some
> > > events
> > > > or sites which you could mention to help us with the
> > decision? If we
> > > could
> > > > revise the Tour at this point, it looks as though it
> > would be in your
> > area
> > > > around the first week of May 2004. Perhaps a Tour of or
> > dinner hosted
> > by
> > > > the Jaguar Headquarters? Or something along those lines?
> > > >
> > > > Jamie Duffey - Everett, WA
> > > > 88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
> > > > 89 XJS V12 Convertible 2 Seater - ????
> > > > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
> > > > April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > From: Hazel A. Beck
> > > >
> > > > To: admin@jonat.org
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:12 AM
> > > >
> > > > Subject: JONAT Route
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi...my name is Hazel Beck, 1st VP of the San Diego
> > Jaguar Club...just
> > > > wanted to throw our hat into the ring to be added to the
> > Tour Route...we
> > > are
> > > > a very active club with 180 members...there is also a
> > large Jaguar Club
> > > > (JOC) in southern Orange County, just north of us...and
> > Jaguar North
> > > > American headquarters (part of the Premier Auto Group) is
> > located in
> > > > Irvine...Orange County again.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From Las Vegas, we are an easy 4-5 hour drive south...it
> > would be easy
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > Highway 101 (the Coastal Highway) up from San Diego through Orange
> > County
> > > an
> > > > up to Los Angeles...it takes less than an hour to get to
> > Orange County
> > and
> > > > additional hour from there to LA...it would add a
> > fabulous dimension of
> > > > automotive history (cruising the 101) and stunning vistas
> > to the tour.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So...this is a formal appeal to add San Diego, America's
> > Finest City, to
> > > the
> > > > JONAT. Please feel free to call me if we can help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards.
> > > >
> > > > Hazel A. Beck
> > > >
> > > > 858.638.0011
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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<font size=3>Hey folks. we have dinner at the Petersen Automotive museum
booked for may 5th.<br>
Ron<br><br>
At 10:24 PM 10/16/2003, Mark Stephenson wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>That's right! Cinco de Mayo.
Perfect! <br><br>
I was semi joking about the Salton Sea Party. My only point was that we
can<br>
hit the low hundreds (40C) in Phoenix at 1100 ft. elevation. We can also
be<br>
in the 80s (30C). Assuming a similar weather pattern, I'd conclude that
it<br>
would be at least 5F hotter at the Salton Sea (-225 ft. elev.). Hence,
my<br>
concern for scheduling the drive into the mid afternoon. You could leave
the<br>
actual departure time open. If it's cool we can leave later; if it's hot,
on<br>
the road at 6:00 a.m. or you're on your own. A quick glance made it look
to<br>
me like it's at least 8 hours on the back roads from Lake Havasu to
San<br>
Diego. That's why I was suggesting an overnight someplace about six
hours<br>
out, which would be somewhere around the Salton Sea. For those of you
from<br>
humid areas, temps rise fast in the desert, and it could be as much as
10F<br>
hotter at 3:30 p.m. as it is a noon.<br><br>
Anyway, those are my meteorological observations based on the weather
in<br>
Arizona.<br><br>
Hazel, you might want to go on the Western Regional Climactic
Center,<br>
Climate Summaries
<<a href="http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/climsum.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/climsum.html</a>>.
This will give you<br>
all the daily data including record high, lowest high, record low,
highest<br>
low, average high and low, and precip max, min and avg. This covers
the<br>
entire western US, for any of the rest of you who want to check it out.
For<br>
example, daily summary stats for Mecca, CA, at the north end of the
Salton<br>
Sea,
<<a href="http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?camecc+sca" eudora="autourl">http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?camecc+sca</a>>
indicate that<br>
the record high is around 105F and the average is around 92F. The
minimum<br>
high was in the mid-seventies.<br><br>
Mark Stephenson, Sector Coordinator - Arizona<br>
Jaguar Owners North American Tour
(<a href="http://www.jonat.org/" eudora="autourl">www.jonat.org</a>)<br>
April 15 - July 4, 2004<br>
Visit the Pub for route discussions <br><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net <br>
>
[<a href="mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net" eudora="autourl">mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Hazel A. Beck<br>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:47 AM<br>
> To: Jerry Mouton; Bob England; jonat@autox.team.net<br>
> Cc: Jamie Duffey - JONAT; Michael Jensen - JONAT; Kerry <br>
> Williamson - JONAT; Gregory Andrachuk - JON<br>
> Subject: [JONAT] Re: San Diego Addition for 2004<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hi, everyone...thanks for all the e-mails...<br>
> <br>
> Our club held its monthly Board Meeting last evening and I <br>
> shared some of<br>
> your e-mails with them...they are very excited to have our <br>
> city added to the<br>
> tour...we consider San Diego a far better choice than Las
Vegas!<br>
> <br>
> They suggested they we time our Winery Tour with your arrival in
early<br>
> May...we have our own mini-Napa Valley here in a city called <br>
> Temecula...it's<br>
> just off I-15, less than an hour north of downtown San <br>
> Diego...we map out a<br>
> drive through the winery country and then have a catered <br>
> lunch at one of the<br>
> wineries...we also thought that we could get a contingent of <br>
> cars to meet<br>
> you as you enter San Diego County and join the tour...I could <br>
> also see about<br>
> a tour and dinner at Headquarters in Irvine on the way up to
LA.<br>
> <br>
> As for Cinco de Mayo, it's definitely celebrated in San <br>
> Diego...in style.<br>
> <br>
> Re: the Salton Sea Party...there are accomodations in El <br>
> Centro...the Sea is<br>
> pretty isolated...not much around it...a bird sanctuary and
geothermal<br>
> plants...cool idea, though...but I'd have to make some
inquiries.<br>
> <br>
> Either I-10 or I-8 would work...back roads into San Diego <br>
> either way...and<br>
> the route is across a desert...it shouldn't be too hot yet in <br>
> the first week<br>
> of May.<br>
> <br>
> So...how can we help to make this happen?<br>
> <br>
> Looking forward to talking with you soon,<br>
> Hazel<br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Jerry Mouton" <jerry@moutons.org><br>
> To: "Bob England" <engl@jonat.org>;
<jonat@autox.team.net><br>
> Cc: "Jamie Duffey - JONAT" <jamie@jonat.org>;
"Michael Jensen - JONAT"<br>
> <jenfam@sbcglobal.net>; "Kerry Williamson -
JONAT"<br>
> <kwilliamson@broadbandnorthwest.com>; "Gregory Andrachuk
- JON"<br>
> <v12-vdp@shaw.ca>; <hazelbeck@worldnet.att.net><br>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:27 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: San Diego Addition for 2004; Re: JONAT
Route<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > No problem here -- I like San Diego better anyway.<br>
> > Extra day is not an issue yet -- it's early days.<br>
> ><br>
> > Jerry Mouton '64 E Type FHC
"Laissez les bons temps rouler!"<br>
> > Jaguar Owner's North
American Tour -
<a href="http://jonat.org/" eudora="autourl">http://jonat.org</a><br>
> > April 15, 2004 - July 4,
2004<br>
> ><br>
> > ----- Original Message -----<br>
> > From: "Bob England" <engl@jonat.org><br>
> > To: <jonat@autox.team.net><br>
> > Cc: "Jamie Duffey - JONAT" <jamie@jonat.org>;
"Jerry <br>
> Moutons - JONAT"<br>
> > <jerry@moutons.org>; "Michael Jensen - JONAT"
<br>
> <jenfam@sbcglobal.net>;<br>
> "Kerry<br>
> > Williamson - JONAT"
<kwilliamson@broadbandnorthwest.com>; "Gregory<br>
> > Andrachuk - JON" <v12-vdp@shaw.ca>;
<hazelbeck@worldnet.att.net><br>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:58 AM<br>
> > Subject: RE: [JONAT] RE: San Diego Addition for 2004; Re:
<br>
> JONAT Route<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > > This seems to be approaching unanimous to skip LV.
Any <br>
> other comments,<br>
> > > questions or concerns?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > How about some comments from San Francisco (Jerry <br>
> Mouton), Lake Tahoe<br>
> link<br>
> > > (Michael Jensen), Oregon (Kerry Williamson), Washington
<br>
> (Jamie Duffey),<br>
> > and<br>
> > > British Columbia (Gregory Andrachuk) - this may push back
<br>
> the schedule a<br>
> > day<br>
> > > or so (won't effect the Vancouver ABFM attendance).<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Bob England<br>
> > > '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6<br>
> > > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<br>
> > > Route Coordinator<br>
> > >
<a href="http://www.jonat.org/" eudora="autourl">http://www.jonat.org</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net <br>
>
[<a href="mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net" eudora="autourl">mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net</a>]On<br>
> > > Behalf Of Mark Stephenson<br>
> > > Sent: October 16, 2003 12:21 AM<br>
> > > To: jonat@autox.team.net<br>
> > > Subject: RE: [JONAT] RE: San Diego Addition for 2004; Re:
<br>
> JONAT Route<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Another option (which I keep pushing) is to skip LV <br>
> altogether. If we<br>
> > don't<br>
> > > have a LV coordinator and we have an enthusiastic person
<br>
> in SD, we can<br>
> > save<br>
> > > LV for 2006. For me, I personally would really like to
<br>
> continue on Rt.<br>
> 66<br>
> > > toward LA, but if we go to SD it might be better to go
<br>
> from Lake Havasu<br>
> > City<br>
> > > to Parker, AZ, cross the Colorado River go east on CA-62
<br>
> and down CA-177<br>
> > to<br>
> > > I-10 and take the back roads to San Diego. Keep in mind,
<br>
> this takes us<br>
> > > across some pretty desolate and hot country, so we'd have
<br>
> to leave very<br>
> > > early to beat the heat of early May and we might have to
<br>
> plan on an<br>
> > > overnight stop around midday. (Perhaps a Salton Sea <br>
> Party?) It would<br>
> > depend<br>
> > > on the average daytime high temps. I was going to say
<br>
> that's Ron's call,<br>
> > but<br>
> > > it might be Hazel's.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Mark Stephenson, Sector Coordinator - Arizona<br>
> > > Jaguar Owners North American Tour
(<a href="http://www.jonat.org/" eudora="autourl">www.jonat.org</a>)<br>
> > > April 15 - July 4, 2004<br>
> > > Visit the Pub for route discussions<br>
> > ><br>
> > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net <br>
>
[<a href="mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net" eudora="autourl">mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net</a>]
On<br>
> > > Behalf Of F. Ronald Rader<br>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:12 PM<br>
> > > To: jonat@autox.team.net<br>
> > > Cc: Hazel A. Beck; Engl-JONAT; Jamie Duffey - JONAT; Fazal
Cader -<br>
> JONAT;<br>
> > > jonat@autox.team.net<br>
> > > Subject: Re: [JONAT] RE: San Diego Addition for 2004; Re:
<br>
> JONAT Route<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Folks:<br>
> > > I think that the route from Las Vegas to San Diego then
<br>
> to Los Angeles<br>
> > might<br>
> > > be more interesting than the route from LV to LA.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Please keep in mind that when entering Los Angeles there
<br>
> is 5 o'clock<br>
> > > traffic from every direction. A drive from SD to LA which
<br>
> could leave SD<br>
> > at<br>
> > > 8.00 AM would want to be at the west side hotel <br>
> destination by 2.00 PM<br>
> if<br>
> > we<br>
> > > are then going to drive to the Petersen Automotive Museum
<br>
> for a car<br>
> > corral,<br>
> > > cocktails and dinner.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > OTOH if we lay over one night in LA, the tour of the
<br>
> Petersen Automotive<br>
> > > Museum could be on the layover day with the car show and
<br>
> dinner around<br>
> > 6.00<br>
> > > PM.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I also think it would be a good way of picking up the
<br>
> large group of Jag<br>
> > > owners in the greater SD area. IMO I would not spend
the <br>
> extra day in<br>
> Las<br>
> > > Vegas. But that is me. As it is now I have arrange for a
<br>
> dinner at the<br>
> > > Petersen Automotive Museum on Cinco de Mayo (may 5th)
<br>
> 2004. I am sure<br>
> that<br>
> > > we could move that out one night if needed.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > BTW, I spoke with Jason Len of XK's Unlimited (SLO) and
<br>
> he would be<br>
> > pleased<br>
> > > to provide economic support in a small way. Perhaps a
<br>
> Cocktail party the<br>
> > > night that we are in SLO? Also he would keep his
shop <br>
> open that night<br>
> if<br>
> > we<br>
> > > asked in advance. This could be for buying parts, spares,
or minor<br>
> repair.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > It would be great if we had a Las Vegas coordinator.
<br>
> Mark, what do you<br>
> > > think?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Ron Rader<br>
> > > Los Angeles Coordinator.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > At 03:49 PM 10/15/2003, Bob England wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hazel<br>
> > ><br>
> > > It's great to hear from San Diego and I'd sure like to be
<br>
> able to tap<br>
> into<br>
> > > your enthusiasm. We have a few options at this
point:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 1. (the easiest) is to have a link tour from San Diego up
<br>
> to LA. That<br>
> is,<br>
> > > SD would not be on the main route, but there would be a
<br>
> group of San<br>
> > Diegans<br>
> > > travelling from SD (and back of course) to join up with
<br>
> the tour in LA,<br>
> > and<br>
> > > hopefully carry on with the Tour a bit from there.
We have a few<br>
> similar<br>
> > > situations (Reno, Phoenix, and Saskatoon) so far.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2. we could re-route the tour. We do not have a
<br>
> Co-ordinator for Las<br>
> > Vegas<br>
> > > as of yet, so an option would be to bypass LV, and go
<br>
> from the Phoenix<br>
> > > Sector into SD. This would need the cooperation of
Los <br>
> Angeles (Ron<br>
> > Rader)<br>
> > > and Phoenix (Mark Stevenson) as it would mean a change to
<br>
> their route.<br>
> We<br>
> > > have a few flex days in Vancouver that would allow the
<br>
> timing to work<br>
> out<br>
> > > (it would effect dates through northern California, <br>
> Oregon, Washington,<br>
> > and<br>
> > > the first bit of British Columbia.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 3. leave SD to be included in "Jaguar Owner's
North <br>
> American Tour - The<br>
> > > Sequel", perhaps in 2006.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > My preference would be either 1 or 2.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I think I'll also open up this discussion to all SC's via
<br>
> the mailing<br>
> > list.<br>
> > > There may be some other valuable comments out there, and
<br>
> those whose<br>
> > sectors<br>
> > > are effected might want to add in a few comments.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I'm very much looking forward to seeing San Diego <br>
> participate in some<br>
> form<br>
> > > next year.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Bob England<br>
> > > '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6<br>
> > > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<br>
> > > Route Coordinator<br>
> > >
<a href="http://www.jonat.org/" eudora="autourl">http://www.jonat.org</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: Jamie - JONAT
[<a href="mailto:jamie@jonat.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:jamie@jonat.org</a>]<br>
> > > Sent: October 15, 2003 12:36 PM<br>
> > > To: Hazel A. Beck<br>
> > > Cc: Engl-JONAT<br>
> > > Subject: San Diego Additon for 2004; Re: JONAT Route<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hello Hazel, this is actually quite a surprise at this
<br>
> point in our<br>
> > > planning. We started over a year ago enlisting
<br>
> interested parties in<br>
> the<br>
> > > Tour formation steps which included the routing, length
<br>
> of stay in an<br>
> > area,<br>
> > > events or sites included along the way and volunteers to
<br>
> help with their<br>
> > > specific areas along the route. Please do not get me
<br>
> wrong, we are<br>
> > pleased<br>
> > > that your club is interested in participating in the Tour
<br>
> as one of our<br>
> > > goals is to provide another opportunity for fellow Jaguar
<br>
> owners to<br>
> enjoy<br>
> > > their choice in vehicle ownership and we feel it is an
<br>
> added benefit to<br>
> > > enjoy the comradery of other owners we can meet on a Tour
<br>
> such as this<br>
> as<br>
> > > some tourers will be traveling perhaps a couple of <br>
> Sectors while others<br>
> > may<br>
> > > be traveling the entire route.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > We may have a problem adjusting the routing at this late
<br>
> date though.<br>
> We<br>
> > > have been organizing the Tour for over the past year, as
<br>
> I mentioned,<br>
> and<br>
> > > have already set some dates for certain areas so we can
<br>
> specifically<br>
> > attend<br>
> > > certain events in those areas. Therefore I am
uncertain <br>
> whether it will<br>
> > be<br>
> > > possible to adjust the routing for this first Tour <br>
> without negatively<br>
> > > affecting other Sector schedules. We can absolutely
<br>
> include the San<br>
> Diego<br>
> > > area in the next Tour, I just cannot answer for this
<br>
> coming year at this<br>
> > > time. I am forwarding my response to my fellow
Executive <br>
> Committee<br>
> > members<br>
> > > and we shall take a look into this routing change.
We <br>
> will have to<br>
> > discuss<br>
> > > this with each of the Sector Coordinators
"downstream" of <br>
> your location<br>
> > and<br>
> > > see what affect it will have on their plans.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Do you have a feel for or better yet a solid number of
<br>
> people from your<br>
> > Club<br>
> > > which are interested in participating at this time?
Do <br>
> you have some<br>
> > events<br>
> > > or sites which you could mention to help us with the
<br>
> decision? If we<br>
> > could<br>
> > > revise the Tour at this point, it looks as though it
<br>
> would be in your<br>
> area<br>
> > > around the first week of May 2004. Perhaps a Tour of
or <br>
> dinner hosted<br>
> by<br>
> > > the Jaguar Headquarters? Or something along those
lines?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Jamie Duffey - Everett, WA<br>
> > > 88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne<br>
> > > 89 XJS V12 Convertible 2 Seater - ????<br>
> > > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour -
<a href="http://jonat.org/" eudora="autourl">http://jonat.org</a><br>
> > > April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004<br>
> > ><br>
> > > ----- Original Message -----<br>
> > ><br>
> > > From: Hazel A. Beck<br>
> > ><br>
> > > To: admin@jonat.org<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:12 AM<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Subject: JONAT Route<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hi...my name is Hazel Beck, 1st VP of the San Diego <br>
> Jaguar Club...just<br>
> > > wanted to throw our hat into the ring to be added to the
<br>
> Tour Route...we<br>
> > are<br>
> > > a very active club with 180 members...there is also a
<br>
> large Jaguar Club<br>
> > > (JOC) in southern Orange County, just north of
us...and <br>
> Jaguar North<br>
> > > American headquarters (part of the Premier Auto Group) is
<br>
> located in<br>
> > > Irvine...Orange County again.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > >From Las Vegas, we are an easy 4-5 hour drive
south...it <br>
> would be easy<br>
> to<br>
> > > do<br>
> > > Highway 101 (the Coastal Highway) up from San Diego
through Orange<br>
> County<br>
> > an<br>
> > > up to Los Angeles...it takes less than an hour to get to
<br>
> Orange County<br>
> and<br>
> > > additional hour from there to LA...it would add a <br>
> fabulous dimension of<br>
> > > automotive history (cruising the 101) and stunning vistas
<br>
> to the tour.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > So...this is a formal appeal to add San Diego, America's
<br>
> Finest City, to<br>
> > the<br>
> > > JONAT. Please feel free to call me if we can
help.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Regards.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hazel A. Beck<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 858.638.0011<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
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